<div dir="ltr">Hello All,<div><br></div><div>Super impressive install, Michael. Almost worth a flight, and a site visit! Back to Jason's initial question....</div><div><br></div><div>If you are using the 15kW Outdoor Sol-Ark they vent from the top and bottom with a required 6" minimum spacing on both the top and bottom. </div><div><br></div><div>A 12kW Outdoor with 8x8 gutter and 1" offset nipples have worked great for us. </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Aloha,<br><br>Lou Russo<br>(808) 345 6762<div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Drake,<div>Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this up as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground single phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half mile 15KV line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, it's kind of hard to see, but for seperation, we attached the pv circuits to the back of the gutter using through bolted adhesive backed cable tie holders. Often we use gutter dividers. They originate in the tall cabinet at the end which houses controls, secondary PV disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub, Battery hub and (Lynk II). On the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the collection and distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the batteries are small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from the transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage (alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other switch to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In the AC cabinet there is a 400a contactor and time delay relay to achieve a generator cooldown as the janky Sol-Arks don't do that and it's hell on new diesels not to have that function.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:50 AM Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p><span style="font-size:12pt">That looks really nice. How were you able to put 8 Sol Arc inverters on a 3 phase panel? Tech support told me that inverters had to be connected in groups of 3. </span></p>
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<div dir="ltr">10x10 gutter. Notice within, a 2.5x2.5 gutter for comms. 1 x 2.5" nipples work well. Chase nipples wont due to door clearance. I've also cut the bottoms out of the Sol-Arks and a corresponding square window in the gutter, placed a 1/4" rubber gasket between the two. We do that when we have many VFD's over a gutter. Someone a while ago asked for a picture showing how we make long bussbars. This one is 24' long.</div>
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<div dir="auto">In plenty of applications l will use couplers with chase nipples, height is one issue but installed working height is very important. I use a 8"x8"x X gutter and sometimes even off set that from the wall, l have had AHJ not want to see mixed cables LVDC and AC in the same conduit so pass through the battery conductors right out the bottom and to the battery. I just create a template for punching into the gutter, looks clean and is safe with easy access to the display</div>
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<div dir="auto">I see a lot of pictures with conduit nipples coming out of a gutter that are fairly long. I have a height limit issue and I'm wondering if there are any negative implications of using very short nipples between a wireway below and the inverter. I'm thinking about using close nipples or perhaps 2-in nipples if I have enough room.
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