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<div dir="ltr" class="">My question is: how/why is it that NAZ and the likes sell equipment for less than what I pay wholesale? </div>
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<div class="v1gmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Here is how I explain it to customers. Straight out of college, I was a financial analyst for an aerospace company working on government contracts. We did "cost-plus" contracts, which is what the client is essentially looking for. The government ended up paying too much for things this way. A fixed-price competitive contract is all the transparency a client needs.</div>
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<div class="">Bottom line package price, all inclusive one number, I list all the major components inverter, modules ect. and all of what is included permits engineering thats it system cost, tax incentive, rebate (if any) no a la carte here sorry.</div>
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