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<p>NAZ is an extremely well run company ! Love those guys!</p>
<p id="reply-intro">On 2023-05-18 8:42 am, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">My question is: how/why is it that NAZ and the likes sell equipment for less than what I pay wholesale? </div>
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<div class="v1gmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Here is how I explain it to customers. Straight out of college, I was a financial analyst for an aerospace company working on government contracts. We did "cost-plus" contracts, which is what the client is essentially looking for. The government ended up paying too much for things this way. A fixed-price competitive contract is all the transparency a client needs.</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Another way I put it is that we charge what the market allows, and if that is not enough for us to provide an excellent customer experience, we simply pass on the job. </div>
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<div class="v1gmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">No line item prices. The only things we might line item are permit costs and engineering fees for non-standard projects.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><br />Jason Szumlanski
<div><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group</span><br style="color: #333333; font-family: Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" /><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)</span><br style="color: #333333; font-family: Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" /><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956</span></div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 6:56 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Bottom line package price, all inclusive one number, I list all the major components inverter, modules ect. and all of what is included permits engineering thats it system cost, tax incentive, rebate (if any) no a la carte here sorry.</div>
<div>But thats just me! </div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:11 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="v1gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi All <br /><br />I have a question about how wrenches are dealing with charging for equipment as most prices of most equipment on line at or below wholesale. <br /><br />If people are marking it up, how much? what metric are people using? I think victron might be the only company I've actually seen a retail price list for in years. <br />Maybe it's just marking up labor costs a lot?<br /><br />I'm not doing all that much work these days but enough that I'm trying to figure this out. <br /><br />Thanks<br />Jay<br /><br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br /><br />Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://re-wrenches.org</a><br /><br />List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br /><br />Change listserver email address & settings:<br /><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br /><br />There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:<br /><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/</a><br /><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br /><br />List rules & etiquette:<br /><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br /><br />Check out or update participant bios:<br /><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br /><br /></blockquote>
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