<div><div dir="auto">David,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">According to Sol Ark engineers, the generator input terminals on the inverter need to see battery voltage in order to pass through power from Gen terminals to load terminals when the grid is not present.  </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Chris </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:14 AM david quattro via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,"Helvetica Neue";word-spacing:1px;border-color:rgb(49,49,49);color:rgb(49,49,49)">Hi all, I only wanted to respond to this:</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,"Helvetica Neue";word-spacing:1px;border-color:rgb(49,49,49);color:rgb(49,49,49)">“Also, don’t expect to connect a generator via Sol Ark for pass through during and outage”</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,"Helvetica Neue";word-spacing:1px;border-color:rgb(49,49,49);color:rgb(49,49,49)">Why not? In my experience SolArk work fine for generator backup, especially the 15K model which has 200A pass through.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,"Helvetica Neue";word-spacing:1px;border-color:rgb(49,49,49);color:rgb(49,49,49)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,"Helvetica Neue";word-spacing:1px;border-color:rgb(49,49,49);color:rgb(49,49,49)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 6:30 AM Scot Arey via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is no backup if there are no batteries with a Sol-Ark. You just have a grid-tied inverter that is one step away from being a robust battery backup system.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img src="cid:18775c3704cad7999131" style="width: 844px; max-width: 100%;"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Sparadeo via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:cwarfel@entech-engineering.com" target="_blank">cwarfel@entech-engineering.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Chris Sparadeo <<a href="mailto:sparadeo.chris@gmail.com" target="_blank">sparadeo.chris@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-ark without batteries<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi William,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think my opinion would be yes, but why? We have a few no-battery installs, but they don’t preform well in grid outage scenarios. If the client is looking for future battery back-up, but not ready to invest just yet, it’s an option. Don’t expect seamless grid forming output with an outage. Also, don’t expect to connect a generator via Sol Ark for pass through during and outage. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My $0.02 is to convince the client to tag on a battery, albeit minimal capacity. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Kindly,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Chris <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 4:22 PM Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;border-left-color:rgb(204,204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