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<div><br class=""><div class="">On Mar 9, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font size="4" class="">Hmmm...I wonder how much SolArk is dreaming.</font><div class=""><font size="4" class=""><a href="https://www.sol-ark.com/e-m-p/" class="">https://www.sol-ark.com/e-m-p/</a><br class=""></font></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:58 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif" class="">
<div id="m_5778047743419261978signature" class="">Depends on how close and how strong the pulse or strike is. In Mil satellites, the same thing. You can harden but are dreaming if you think your electronics can really survive it. Even harder to protect electronics that are powered on. The KH series spy sats I saw schematics for had redundant systems that were off or rotated I seem to remember. This was back in the 90's so very sketchy in the fog of time.</div>
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"we go where powerlines don't"
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</div><p class=""><br class=""></p><p id="m_5778047743419261978reply-intro" class="">On 2023-03-09 9:09 am, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches wrote:</p>
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<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif" class=""><p class="">Backwoods Solar sells kits to harden against EMP. I am wondering how effective they would be.</p><p class="">Drake</p><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class=""><em class="">Drake Chamberlin</em></p><p class=""><em class="">Athens Electric LLC</em></p><p class=""><em class="">Ohio Electrical Contractor’s License 44810</em></p><p class=""><em class="">CO Master Electrician’s License 4526</em></p><p class=""><em class="">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional</em></p>
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<div dir="auto" class=""><strong class="">Date: </strong>Wed, Mar 8, 2023 11:37 AM</div>
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<div class="">Have any of you come across any articles or white papers on how PV systems (including energy storage) fare under conditions of electromagnetic pulses and solar flares?</div>
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