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    <p>I'm not an EMP expert by any means, but I've dealt with quite a
      few lightning damaged systems.  Having a good connection to a low
      impedance grounding system (steel cased well, Ufer ground) is
      crucial.  I also have had fantastic luck with Midnite's MNSPD
      line.  Delta, not so much.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/9/2023 12:39 PM, Starlight via
      RE-wrenches wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">Right Dave. The VooDoo of EMI filtering, lightning
        protection or EMP induced voltage reduction attempts are similar
        and governed by the inverse square law. How much energy and how
        close is it? You must properly reduce energy propagation <u
          class="">at every point.</u> I have seen very expensive
        protection systems with poor implementation making the entire
        scheme useless.  So, is the cost and effort worth the results?
        Study, then study more. It may be more cost effective to have a
        back part rather than spending money on an expensive
        preventative measure.</div>
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        <div class="">On Mar 9, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf via
          RE-wrenches <<a
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          <div dir="ltr" class=""><font class="" size="4">Hmmm...I
              wonder how much SolArk is dreaming.</font>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at
              9:58 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches <<a
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                <div id="m_5778047743419261978signature" class="">Depends
                  on how close and how strong the pulse or strike is. In
                  Mil satellites, the same thing. You can harden but are
                  dreaming if you think your electronics can really
                  survive it. Even harder to protect electronics that
                  are powered on. The KH series spy sats I saw
                  schematics for had redundant systems that were off or
                  rotated I seem to remember. This was back in the 90's
                  so very sketchy in the fog of time.</div>
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                <div class="">For Offgrid, and High Rel power systems, a
                  faraday cage for your inverter and CC is a must if you
                  are in high lightning zone. A top of a mountain is
                  often really hard on a house or Telcom. One place I
                  have blows SPD's yearly. <br class="">
                  <pre class=""> </pre>
                  <pre class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
<a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/" rel="noopener" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/</a>
e-mail  <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>
text 209 813 0060</span></strong></pre>
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                <p id="m_5778047743419261978reply-intro" class="">On
                  2023-03-09 9:09 am, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
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                      <p class="">Backwoods Solar sells kits to harden
                        against EMP. I am wondering how effective they
                        would be.</p>
                      <p class="">Drake</p>
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                      <p class=""><em class="">Drake Chamberlin</em></p>
                      <p class=""><em class="">Athens Electric LLC</em></p>
                      <p class=""><em class="">Ohio Electrical
                          Contractor’s License 44810</em></p>
                      <p class=""><em class="">CO Master Electrician’s
                          License 4526</em></p>
                      <p class=""><em class="">NABCEP Certified PV
                          Installation Professional</em></p>
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                        class="">On 2023-03-08 11:49, Glenn Burt via
                        RE-wrenches wrote:</p>
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                              <div dir="auto" class="">I would review
                                Sol Arks website as they say they are
                                immune. Probably have something to back
                                that up published there.</div>
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                                <div dir="auto" class="">-Glenn</div>
                                <div dir="auto" class="">Sent from my
                                  'smart'phone, so please excuse typos
                                  and spelling errors.</div>
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                                <div dir="auto" class=""><strong
                                    class="">From: </strong>Marco
                                  Mangelsdorf via RE-wrenches</div>
                                <div dir="auto" class=""><strong
                                    class="">Date: </strong>Wed, Mar 8,
                                  2023 11:37 AM</div>
                                <div dir="auto" class=""><strong
                                    class="">To: </strong>RE-wrenches;</div>
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                                    class="">Cc: </strong>Marco
                                  Mangelsdorf;</div>
                                <div dir="auto" class=""><strong
                                    class="">Subject:</strong>[RE-wrenches]
                                  PV and EMP</div>
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                              Aloha all, 
                              <div class=""> </div>
                              <div class="">Have any of you come across
                                any articles or white papers on how PV
                                systems (including energy storage) fare
                                under conditions of electromagnetic
                                pulses and solar flares?</div>
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                              <div class="">Mahalo, </div>
                              <div class="">marco</div>
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