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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>The LG Prime 16 is a battery only. 16KWH with 10KW discharge makes it a very nice match with SolarEdge 11400. There is no integrated inverter within the battery.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=300 height=119 style='width:3.125in;height:1.2343in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01D93184.8F50EDB0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2023 10:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <offgridsolar@sti.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Does anybody know if the LG Prime 16 battery has been test to UL9540A standards that would allow units to be closer than three feet apart?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=signature><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The LG Prime is an NMC chemistry Lithium I believe. It probably needs as much protection as possible from thermal runaway as it is a definitely not as safe as LFP Lithium. I hope I am wrong but that is what I know at this time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The first system I saw that met UL9540 was the pairing of Discover AES and Schneider electronics. Others should be doing this and maybe are. The LG is an all in one battery and inverter and similar to Tesla Powerwall right?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><a href="https://blog.discoverbattery.com/discover-battery-aes-lifepo4-battery-certified-ul9540-for-solar-energy-storage-systems">https://blog.discoverbattery.com/discover-battery-aes-lifepo4-battery-certified-ul9540-for-solar-energy-storage-systems</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I think you are right about 9540A from a quick look.<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar<o:p></o:p></span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>"we go where powerlines don't"<o:p></o:p></span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/" target="_blank">http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/</a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>e-mail <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></pre><pre><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>text 209 813 0060</span></strong><o:p></o:p></pre></div><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p id=reply-intro><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>On 2023-01-25 8:35 pm, Scot Arey via RE-wrenches wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in'><div id=replybody1><div><div><p class=v1msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A new inspector asked a new question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=v1msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=v1msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>From my studies tonight it looks like UL9540A is not a listing but a test standard and in fact UL has a database of batteries that have been test to the A standard which according to UL can allow (with AHJ approval) less than 3-feet separation between batteries.<br><br>The database not the easiest and LG is in there but cannot ascertain if for the Prime 16 so thought I’d share what I’ve learned and ask if others run across same.<br><br>The IRC 328 section requires UL9540. But it also requires 3-feet unless tested in fire conditions for battery to battery inducement of thermal runaway. Anybody have any insight or recommendations?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=v1msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=v1msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><img border=0 width=240 height=95 style='width:2.5in;height:.9895in' id="_x0000_i1025" src=RCMAP3293a2889c014a04bb1c0b62f8c779a7></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=v1msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>Pay optional member dues here: <a href="http://re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>There are two list archives for searching. 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