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<span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Victron would work quite well as well. The biggest drawback is that they don't have a single unit for 120/240, but stacking
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<div>The Midnite Rosie sounds interesting for sure. Midnite is a great company with great support. Smart people answer the phone and that really counts for a lot.</div>
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<div>How are you getting your hands on these? I can't seem to find much info, no spec sheets etc. None of my vendors have them and Midnite is estimating Apr 2023 as the release date.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I run the XW6848 in my shop. When running my CNC plasma table the XW will shutdown due to exceeding its output rating if it is a long cut on metal when the 4HP compressor kicks on.
<div>I also have a Midnite Solar Rosey, both are connected to the same battery so it's an equal comparison. The Rosy inverter will surge right through and finish the job, the XW is not in the same league when comparing surge capability.</div>
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<div> A bonus is that the Rosey is really quiet as it does not have that big heavy transformer making noise under heavy load. It is easy to install as it is not as heavy. So far it's a game changer in regards to inverter hardware that I have tested.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I have a client with a large woodworking shop…cabinet table saw, large 20” 240V bench planer, chop saws, compressors and a vacuum system. A single Sol Ark 15K takes care of these loads flawlessly. It seems that that inductive load snag with
the smaller models has been resolved with the 15K. </div>
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There is not anything I know of that will out surge XW pro 6948. A great monitoring platform and much better support/installer training in the last 18 months. Perfect for a shop with unknown peak surges.<br>
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On <a href="tel:2023-01-13%2011" target="_blank">2023-01-13 11</a>:57 am, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">The radian is low voltage transformer</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I would consider what web based monitoring system he wants and go with that platform. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Regardless of system I'd install soft start/vfd on the larger units. Just easier on everything.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The solark 12 doesn't seem to be good for larger loads and doesn't do out of balance well, and limited to 6kw per phase. The new 15 might be better, not sure. Numerous YouTube videos showing side by side vs XW and radian. Both run stuff over
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<div>I have a new client that has ran a pretty decent wood shop for about 10 years on a Magnum 4448. He's got some large loads, planers, saws, compressors vacuums etc. They are really nice, heavy duty pieces of equipment. Amazingly, the Magnum has been able
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<div>He wants to upgrade the system, get remote monitoring etc. I tried a test with a Sol-Ark 12, and it won't start these large motor loads. I was a little surprised by that but I know they aren't as good as the low freq transformer based inverters at these
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<div>I confirmed that its not just an overload from imbalance because the 240V loads will also overload it. I got an inrush measurement of 48.5A Ac @240 (but it didn't start the load before Sol-Ark would shut off) </div>
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<div>What are my options?</div>
<div>Schneider XW Pro 6848</div>
<div>Outback Radian 8048 (Is this a low freq device?)</div>
<div>Sunny Islands are beasts but weird to work with and not user friendly</div>
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<div>Any others I should consider? He does have some significant 120 only loads so I don't think the Outback vfxr are a good choice.</div>
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<div>Is it as simple as saying if the Magnum can start this load, the Radian should?</div>
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