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    Three (3) weeks is also what I am being told.   Part of the delay
    was that ETL/Intertek dropped the ball, big time.<br>
    <br>
    Actually, ETL ran out of brains and we had to go to another NRTL
    altogether for inverters.<br>
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    And yes, it does surge very well.<br>
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    Merry new year, all !<br>
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    🌜boB🌛<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/14/2023 11:40 AM, William Bryce
      via RE-wrenches wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I am told the RE (off grid version) will be
        available through normal distribution in 3 weeks. 
        <div> As a Beta tester for this inverter I can say the use of
          SiC Fets is a game changer.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:22
          AM Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches <<a
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          <div dir="ltr">Fully appreciate everyone's input.<br>
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            <div>The Midnite Rosie sounds interesting for sure.  Midnite
              is a great company with great support.  Smart people
              answer the phone and that really counts for a lot.</div>
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            <div>How are you getting your hands on these?  I can't seem
              to find much info, no spec sheets etc.  None of my vendors
              have them and Midnite is estimating Apr 2023 as the
              release date.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at
              8:34 AM William Bryce via RE-wrenches <<a
                href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
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              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">I run the XW6848 in my shop. When running
                my CNC plasma table the XW will shutdown due to
                exceeding its output rating if it is a long cut on metal
                when the 4HP compressor kicks on. 
                <div>I also have a Midnite Solar Rosey, both are
                  connected to the same battery so it's an equal
                  comparison. The Rosy inverter will surge right through
                  and finish the job, the XW is not in  the same league
                  when comparing surge capability.</div>
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                <div> A bonus is that the Rosey is really quiet as it
                  does not have that big heavy transformer making noise
                  under heavy load. It is easy to install as it is not
                  as heavy. So far it's a game changer in regards to
                  inverter hardware that I have tested.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 13, 2023
                  at 9:54 PM Chris Sparadeo via RE-wrenches <<a
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                  <div dir="auto">I have a client with a large
                    woodworking shop…cabinet table saw, large 20” 240V
                    bench planer, chop saws, compressors and a vacuum
                    system. A single Sol Ark 15K takes care of these
                    loads flawlessly. It seems that that inductive load
                    snag with the smaller models has been resolved with
                    the 15K. </div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Chris </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 13,
                        2023 at 7:34 PM Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches <<a
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                            <div dir="auto">According to a seminar I
                              just attended, the new Midnite Solar Rosie
                              will...</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">-Glenn</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Sent from my 'smart'phone,
                                so please excuse typos and spelling
                                errors.</div>
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                              <div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Dave
                                Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Fri, Jan 13,
                                2023 3:55 PM</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>RE-wrenches;</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b>Dave Angelini
                                Offgrid Solar;</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re:
                                [RE-wrenches] Low Frequency transformer
                                off-grid inverter options</div>
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                              <div
id="m_3276562124289396997m_-3685108705955197969m_-3364154294800338355m_-8053682154785391027signature">There
                                is not anything I know of that will out
                                surge XW pro 6948. A great monitoring
                                platform and much better
                                support/installer training in the last
                                18 months. Perfect for a shop with
                                unknown peak surges.<br>
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                                <pre style="font-family:monospace"><strong style="font-family:monospace"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:monospace">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
<a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/" rel="noopener" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/</a>
e-mail  <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>
text <a href="tel:209%20813%200060" style="font-family:monospace" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">209 813 0060</a></span></strong></pre>
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                                <a href="tel:2023-01-13%2011"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">2023-01-13
                                  11</a>:57 am, Jay via RE-wrenches
                                wrote:</p>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Hi Mac</div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">The radian is low
                                      voltage transformer</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">Based. Has hella
                                      surge capacity </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"> </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">I would consider what
                                      web based monitoring system he
                                      wants and go with that platform. </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"> </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">Regardless of system
                                      I'd install soft start/vfd on the
                                      larger units. Just easier on
                                      everything.</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"> </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">The solark 12 doesn't
                                      seem to be good for larger loads
                                      and doesn't do out of balance
                                      well, and limited to 6kw per
                                      phase. The new 15 might be better,
                                      not sure. Numerous YouTube videos
                                      showing side by side vs XW and
                                      radian. Both run stuff over their
                                      rating which the SolA won't run
                                      even though its under its rating. </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"> </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">Good luck</div>
                                    <div dir="ltr"> </div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">Jay</div>
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                                        Jan 13, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Mac
                                        Lewis via RE-wrenches <a
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Hello Wrenches,
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                                          <div>I have a new client that
                                            has ran a pretty decent wood
                                            shop for about 10 years on a
                                            Magnum 4448.  He's got some
                                            large loads, planers, saws,
                                            compressors vacuums etc. 
                                            They are really nice, heavy
                                            duty pieces of equipment. 
                                            Amazingly, the Magnum has
                                            been able to start these
                                            loads for the most part
                                            for 10 years, but he has
                                            reported that it has gotten
                                            worse lately (could be a
                                            load issue), brown outs,
                                            dimming etc</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>He wants to upgrade the
                                            system, get remote
                                            monitoring etc.  I tried a
                                            test with a Sol-Ark 12, and
                                            it won't start these large
                                            motor loads.  I was a little
                                            surprised by that but I know
                                            they aren't as good as the
                                            low freq transformer based
                                            inverters at these surges.</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>I confirmed that its not
                                            just an overload from
                                            imbalance because the 240V
                                            loads will also overload
                                            it.  I got an inrush
                                            measurement of 48.5A Ac @240
                                            (but it didn't start the
                                            load before Sol-Ark would
                                            shut off)  </div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>What are my options?</div>
                                          <div>Schneider XW Pro 6848</div>
                                          <div>Outback Radian 8048 (Is
                                            this a low freq device?)</div>
                                          <div>Sunny Islands are beasts
                                            but weird to work with and
                                            not user friendly</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>Any others I should
                                            consider?  He does have some
                                            significant 120 only loads
                                            so I don't think the Outback
                                            vfxr are a good choice.</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>Is it as simple as saying
                                            if the Magnum can start this
                                            load, the Radian should?</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>I appreciate your input!</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>--<br>
                                            <div dir="ltr">Mac Lewis<br>
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style="font-family:"times new roman",serif">"Yo solo sé que no
                                                        sé nada." </span><span
style="font-weight:bold;font-family:arial;color:rgb(104,104,104)"><span
style="font-family:"times new roman",serif">-Sócrates</span></span></span></span></span></p>
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