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Three (3) weeks is also what I am being told. Part of the delay
was that ETL/Intertek dropped the ball, big time.<br>
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Actually, ETL ran out of brains and we had to go to another NRTL
altogether for inverters.<br>
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And yes, it does surge very well.<br>
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Merry new year, all !<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/14/2023 11:40 AM, William Bryce
via RE-wrenches wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I am told the RE (off grid version) will be
available through normal distribution in 3 weeks.
<div> As a Beta tester for this inverter I can say the use of
SiC Fets is a game changer.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:22
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<div dir="ltr">Fully appreciate everyone's input.<br>
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<div>The Midnite Rosie sounds interesting for sure. Midnite
is a great company with great support. Smart people
answer the phone and that really counts for a lot.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>How are you getting your hands on these? I can't seem
to find much info, no spec sheets etc. None of my vendors
have them and Midnite is estimating Apr 2023 as the
release date.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at
8:34 AM William Bryce via RE-wrenches <<a
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<div dir="ltr">I run the XW6848 in my shop. When running
my CNC plasma table the XW will shutdown due to
exceeding its output rating if it is a long cut on metal
when the 4HP compressor kicks on.
<div>I also have a Midnite Solar Rosey, both are
connected to the same battery so it's an equal
comparison. The Rosy inverter will surge right through
and finish the job, the XW is not in the same league
when comparing surge capability.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> A bonus is that the Rosey is really quiet as it
does not have that big heavy transformer making noise
under heavy load. It is easy to install as it is not
as heavy. So far it's a game changer in regards to
inverter hardware that I have tested.</div>
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at 9:54 PM Chris Sparadeo via RE-wrenches <<a
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<div dir="auto">I have a client with a large
woodworking shop…cabinet table saw, large 20” 240V
bench planer, chop saws, compressors and a vacuum
system. A single Sol Ark 15K takes care of these
loads flawlessly. It seems that that inductive load
snag with the smaller models has been resolved with
the 15K. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Chris </div>
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<div dir="auto">According to a seminar I
just attended, the new Midnite Solar Rosie
will...</div>
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<div dir="auto">-Glenn</div>
<div dir="auto">Sent from my 'smart'phone,
so please excuse typos and spelling
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<div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Dave
Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Fri, Jan 13,
2023 3:55 PM</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>RE-wrenches;</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b>Dave Angelini
Offgrid Solar;</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re:
[RE-wrenches] Low Frequency transformer
off-grid inverter options</div>
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is not anything I know of that will out
surge XW pro 6948. A great monitoring
platform and much better
support/installer training in the last
18 months. Perfect for a shop with
unknown peak surges.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Mac</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The radian is low
voltage transformer</div>
<div dir="ltr">Based. Has hella
surge capacity </div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr">I would consider what
web based monitoring system he
wants and go with that platform. </div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr">Regardless of system
I'd install soft start/vfd on the
larger units. Just easier on
everything.</div>
<div dir="ltr"> </div>
<div dir="ltr">The solark 12 doesn't
seem to be good for larger loads
and doesn't do out of balance
well, and limited to 6kw per
phase. The new 15 might be better,
not sure. Numerous YouTube videos
showing side by side vs XW and
radian. Both run stuff over their
rating which the SolA won't run
even though its under its rating. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Good luck</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello Wrenches,
<div> </div>
<div>I have a new client that
has ran a pretty decent wood
shop for about 10 years on a
Magnum 4448. He's got some
large loads, planers, saws,
compressors vacuums etc.
They are really nice, heavy
duty pieces of equipment.
Amazingly, the Magnum has
been able to start these
loads for the most part
for 10 years, but he has
reported that it has gotten
worse lately (could be a
load issue), brown outs,
dimming etc</div>
<div> </div>
<div>He wants to upgrade the
system, get remote
monitoring etc. I tried a
test with a Sol-Ark 12, and
it won't start these large
motor loads. I was a little
surprised by that but I know
they aren't as good as the
low freq transformer based
inverters at these surges.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I confirmed that its not
just an overload from
imbalance because the 240V
loads will also overload
it. I got an inrush
measurement of 48.5A Ac @240
(but it didn't start the
load before Sol-Ark would
shut off) </div>
<div> </div>
<div>What are my options?</div>
<div>Schneider XW Pro 6848</div>
<div>Outback Radian 8048 (Is
this a low freq device?)</div>
<div>Sunny Islands are beasts
but weird to work with and
not user friendly</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Any others I should
consider? He does have some
significant 120 only loads
so I don't think the Outback
vfxr are a good choice.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Is it as simple as saying
if the Magnum can start this
load, the Radian should?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I appreciate your input!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>--<br>
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