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My bet is on a neutral to ground bond inside the generator!<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Roy Butler
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<div dir="ltr">You may have neutral and ground connected at more
than 1 location, meaning at the genset and in house panel, which
means the ground is carrying current back to the generator in
parallel with the neutral.
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<div>I remember with some Honda portables we had to float the
neutral at the genset or the inverter would trip the
generator's GFI when trying to charge the batteries.</div>
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<pre><span style="font-size:12pt">The easy answer is try another genset ! You have to be more specific, did it ever work? Is it new? etc. Good Luck !</span></pre>
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We have a new Magnum MS4024 mounted on an E-Panel
using a MidNite Classic 150 and Whiz-Bang JR with
power coming from an array of Trina
TSM365-De06X-05(II) (three strings of three) with the
ME-RC50 and a HUP SolarOne 6-85-14/24 battery.<br>
When we attempt to use the PFC (Power Factored
Charger), the Gen Set’s GFCI outlets trip. Thus far
we have verified the connections are secure, assured
that the gen set is grounded, disconnected the jumper
within the E-Panel between the ground buss and
neutral, checked AC voltages, removed the MNSPD’s from
the buss(s)… Stumped now on what an appropriate next
step should be. How do we get the PFC to function
properly? What are we missing?<br>
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