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<p class="MsoNormal">Having witnessed the aftermath of others who have installed batteries by bolting brackets to wood stud walls, my advice is do not do it! You reinforce the structure prior to mounting the batteries but failing to do could result in a catastrophic
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Jarvis via RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:38 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Buckling of the wall studs is most likely going to be the failure mode. You can use WebStructural to look at different designs. You'll find that accurately defining the constraints on the structural members is the most troublesome.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally, I don't think that supporting a couple of thousand pounds of dead load hanging off the sides of $2 studs fastened with unknown fasteners into unknown top and bottom plates is a super great idea. I would do it on a poured concrete
wall, but this sounds like it is asking for trouble.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 9:30 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2x4 studs have compressive force to hold up over 1,000 pounds each when constructing a load bearing wall, so I don't think that is a limiting factor. But I am not a structural engineer, so consulting one would not be a bad idea. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 10:21 AM Chris Sparadeo <<a href="mailto:sparadeo.chris@gmail.com" target="_blank">sparadeo.chris@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m still wondering if there is an IBC reference for weight. The Discover manual only states:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">“ For structural and seismic stability, the AES Battery must be mounted onto a vertical supporting surface strong enough to support a minimum of 227 kg (500 lbs) per battery. Failure to follow these instructions can result in death or serious
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<p class="MsoNormal">Other than asking a structural engineer, how can I be sure that the wall is rated to 4,500 lbs? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That won't be a problem as long as they are spread across several studs. Even 2x4 studs would be fine. Check the installation manual for details. The shear and pull out strength of the fasteners will be the limiting factor, not the wall
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://assets.discoverbattery.com/documents/03_aes/805_product_manual/gui-aes-wall-mount-bracket-installation-guide.pdf" target="_blank">https://assets.discoverbattery.com/documents/03_aes/805_product_manual/gui-aes-wall-mount-bracket-installation-guide.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a project where I am contemplating hanging 9 Discover AES batteries on a wall. Each battery is around 200 lbs, and although the stud wall is a bulky 2”x6” with 16” OC…I have apprehensions that hanging almost a ton of battery on the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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