<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Umm, anyone? anyone?<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Dan Brown<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br><a href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>NABCEP #092907-44</div><div></div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Power MATE3 to MATE3S Upgrade<br>
From: "Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar" <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>><br>
Date: Thu, September 21, 2017 10:49 am<br>
To: "RE-wrenches" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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One of the reasons I like GFP is that it can save a system by shutting<br>
down during lightning. I have seen it happen a few times with Schneider<br>
offgrid. The other thing is there should be an SPD on the DC buss, the AC<br>
buss, and at the array. Once you have been hit it is too late and the new<br>
system may be next. I am not saying this is your problem, but, I am not<br>
saying it isn't. Offgrid is so reliable because there is none of the grid<br>
surges on the the equipment. Lightning is the big variable (and how close<br>
it was) and if there is a human in the home, they should shut anything<br>
from the outside down when it is near. I tell them to keep a copy of the<br>
check for the system and post it near the disco. If it is a known<br>
lightning prone area they/you will have to do more! Good luck<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar<br>
"we go where powerlines don't"<br>
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Dave dan@foxfire-energy.comDave<br>
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> font-size:10pt;"><div>The system (Off Grid) was originally installed in<br>
> 2006 in a high end 2nd home in the wilds of Northern Vt. This spring the<br>
> system took a lightening strike and was replaced with 4 FXR inverters and<br>
> a Mate3s. The owners later chose to set up Optics RE and to install a<br>
> FN-DC. The replacement system was originally programed with the 1st Mate3s<br>
> and was fully operational both locally and on OpticsRE. After the FN-DC<br>
> was installed (as outlined in the manual), we noticed we had some system<br>
> info and some menus, but no control at the Mate (the screen would twitch<br>
> after entering a command request, but returned to the previous menu).. The<br>
> first OB tech suggested verifying basic connections and power cycling<br>
> (which I had already done, but figured I'd humor him anyway), but that<br>
> meant loosing comm (Satellite).. The next tech asked to be taken off<br>
> speaker phone and suggested I was at fault because there was no GFP on the<br>
> charge controller (although there is no mention of GFP in the FN-DC<br>
> manual), and because I did not fully power down and wait 10 min. before<br>
> connecting the cat5 / hub 10.3 etc. and thus voided all warranties.. He<br>
> also suggested I try to communicate with the FXRs w/ Mate3 individually to<br>
> determine the extent of the damage.. Still no control. The next tech<br>
> instructed us to reconnect all components (Live - said everything is plug<br>
> and play), which again did allow control from OpticsRE but not the Mate.<br>
> We made a few adjustments but the tech said it was definitely a bad Mate3s<br>
> and that there was a known glitch between the Mate3s and FN-DC (at least<br>
> that's what I interpreted), and issued an RMA.. but also said the Mate3s<br>
> was undergoing revision and would not be available till early Oct.. So not<br>
> to expect shipment till then.. Two days later I received a replacement<br>
> Mate3s from my supplier here at the shop (although I requested that the<br>
> new Mate be shipped directly to my customer). I told my supplier what the<br>
> 3rd tech told me.. They called back and said their contact at OB told them<br>
> this Mate3s should be fine. I have not installed this replacement till I<br>
> do a little more research, but plan a trip up there next week (3.5 hrs<br>
> away).</div><div><br></div><div>If you have insight, please<br>
> share.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this<br>
> helps.</div><div><br></div><div>db<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Dan<br>
> Brown<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy<br>
> Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br><a<br>
> href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com<br>NABCEP<br>
> #092907-44</div><div></div><div><br><br></div><br>
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> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Power MATE3 to MATE3S Upgrade<br><br>
> From: Jay <<a<br>
> href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com">jay.peltz@gmail.com><br><br>
> Date: Wed, September 20, 2017 10:09 am<br><br>
> To: RE-wrenches <<a<br>
> href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><br>
> <br><br>
> <div></div><div>Can you be more specific about the fndc interface<br>
> issues. </div><div>What wasn't working and the fix is new M3s<br>
> firmware yet to be<br>
> released?</div><div><br></div><div>Thx</div><div>Jay</div><div><br>On Sep<br>
> 20, 2017, at 4:10 AM, <<a target="_blank" <br="">
> href="mailto:dan@foxfire-energy.com">dan@foxfire-energy.com</a>> <<a<br>
> target="_blank"<br>
> href="mailto:dan@foxfire-energy.com">dan@foxfire-energy.com><br>
> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px<br>
> solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div><span<br>
> style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Seems<br>
> earlier versions of the 3s had a glitch that didn't play nice with FN-DC..<br>
> OB tech said a new version wasn't available till early Oct.. Still had<br>
> control from Optics RE but no local control..<br>
> </div><div><br></div><div>Good<br>
> Luck</div><div><br></div><div>db<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Dan<br>
> Brown<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy<br>
> Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br><a target="_blank" <br="">
> href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>NABCEP<br>
> #092907-44</div><div></div><div><br><br></div> <blockquote<br>
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> --------<br> Subject: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Power MATE3 to MATE3S<br>
> Upgrade<br> From: Matthew Sirum <<a target="_blank" <br="">
> href="mailto:matthewsirum@gmail.com">matthewsirum@gmail.com</a>><br><br>
> Date: Wed, September 20, 2017 6:12 am<br> To: re-wrenches <<a<br>
> target="_blank"<br>
> href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><br>
> <br> Greetings All,<br> <br> I'm preparing to replace an existing OutBack<br>
> Power MATE3 System<br> Display/Controller with the new MATE3S. The system<br>
> is a grid tied 5<br> stack of Radian GS8048A Inverter/Chargers. I am<br>
> interested to know if<br> any of you may have done this and if you<br>
> encountered any issues or<br> have any insights to pass along. This system<br>
> does have a generator<br> and uses the Advanced Generator Start (AGS)<br>
> function to control<br> generator start/stop and battery charging while<br>
> the generator is<br> running. I believe this is the only<br>
> Display/Controller based function<br> the system is using, so it will<br>
> likely need to be programed and setup<br> in the new MATE3S. I am hopeful<br>
> that all other programing is stored<br> in the Radians and will not need<br>
> to be reprogramed/entered to the new<br> MATE3S. The system is connected<br>
> to OpticsRE (OutBack Power's system<br> monitoring website/service). I<br>
> assume we may need to do some<br> programing from the new MATE3S and/or<br>
> from the system's OpticsRE site<br> to enable communication since the new<br>
> MATE3S may have a different IP<br> address, MAC Address, and etc than the<br>
> MATE3 we are removing.<br> <br> We are hopeful the new MATE3S will allow<br>
> the system to function better<br> with its OpticsRE site and not need to<br>
> be reset every couple months.<br> <br> Please let me know if you have any<br>
> experience or thoughts to offer.<br> <br> Have any of you installed and<br>
> setup the new MATE3S? Any Issues,<br> insights, or comparisons to the<br>
> MATE3 to report?<br> <br> Thank you!<br> <br> Best regards,<br> <br><br>
> ----MATT<br> <br> Matthew Sirum<br> P.O. Box 1227<br> Greenfield, MA<br>
> 01302-1227 USA<br> phone: +1.413.773.0611<br> email: <a target="_blank" <br="">
> href="mailto:MatthewSirum@gmail.com">MatthewSirum@gmail.com</a><br><br>
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