<div dir="ltr"><img width="0" height="0" class="mailtrack-img" alt="" style="display:flex" src="https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/2a17f35a7a413d9b68e681e5bdc492e9fea8103f.png?u=1613865"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Most of the systems around here that were affected are microinverter based, so we plan to look at degradation impacts through monitoring.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Brian Teitelbaum <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bteitelbaum@aeesolar.com" target="_blank">bteitelbaum@aeesolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the early report Jason. Be safe down there.<div><br></div><div>I would be cautious about those modules that were so violently tossed about, even if the glass is intact. They may be full of cell micro fractures</div><div><br></div><div>It would be interesting if we had IR images of working arrays from before and after a huge wind event like that, to see if there is any degradation of output. Maybe there are enough monitored systems with historical data now to see the effects, if any.</div><div><br></div><div>Brian Teitelbaum</div><div>AEE Solar</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Jason Szumlanski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com" target="_blank">jason@<wbr>floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><img width="0" height="0" class="m_-8779173257214610306m_-4027953137856270221mailtrack-img" alt="" style="display:flex" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm based in Fort Myers and we cover the hardest hit areas from Irma. We are in the "stuff" right now, so I'll make this brief until I have more time, which might be a while. We are seeing quite a bit of minor damage and some major damage. We're getting calls from all dealers' customers and a couple of our own clients. We have several homes with one or two panels dislodged. There is no rhyme or reason. Some are middle of arrays, some on edges. Panels are ripped right off rails, leads ripped from microinverters. Strangely, it looks like the panel j-box connection and MC4 connectors survived better than the microinverter end of the DC leads. Amazingly, we have several panels that were blown onto driveways, other roofs, and pool cages with NO DAMAGE except frame scrapes. Very weird. We haven't seen a shattered panel yet, but it's early.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm heading to a self-storage facility tomorrow where there are three 25kw systems on different buildings. Two buildings are unscathed. One building lost ALL of the panels apparently. Tornado? Hard to say.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So far (other than the 25kw I have not evaluated) we have not seen a single fastener pulled out. All of the failures are panel top and mid clamps at this time. Anchor and rails remain intact. Possibly installation errors? Possibly sheared off T-bolts? Hard to tell and we may never fully know.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We generally require 48 inch spacing between anchors into trusses for engineered systems. The pullout values are pretty high. It looks like the attachment points into the roof are not going to be the failure point in the systems in Florida, but there is a LOT of work to be done still. It's going to be a very interesting few months ahead!</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Jason Szumlanski</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Florida Solar Design Group</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM, James Rudolph <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamesrudolph99@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamesrudolph99@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Aloha Everyone,<div>I was just wondering how all the PV arrays did during these storms?</div><div>Does Florida have higher pull out values and wind designs for their PV/H20 systems?</div><div>Is there any thing the rest of us could learn from all this?</div><div>Photos?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mahalo Nui Loa,</div><div><div><div class="m_-8779173257214610306m_-4027953137856270221m_-527145456834027696gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;font-size:small;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></p><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Californian FB",serif"><font size="2">James B. Rudolph</font></span></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="Californian FB, serif"><b>Hawaii Unified</b></font></p><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Californian FB",serif"><font size="2">Director of Energy</font></span></b></p><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Californian FB",serif"><font size="2">ES Electrician # 10816</font></span></b></p><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Californian FB",serif"><font size="2">NABCEP Certified PV Installer # 091209-155</font></span></b></p><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="2"></font><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="2"></font><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="2"></font><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="2"></font></p><p style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Californian FB",serif"><font size="2">80</font></span></b></p></div><div><b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Californian FB",serif"><font size="2"><br></font></span></b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><br><b><img alt="" width="0" height="0" src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7"><br></b><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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