<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12034"><span>Dear Wrenches,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12193"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12194"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12391">Can anyone direct me to a source for stainless hanger bolts without going through a solar distributor? I remember around 15 years ago a supplier up in the Seattle area, but now cannot find them. Any help is appreciated.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12393"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12392"><span>Cheers,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497115552630_12394"><span>Jerry Caldwell</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:43 AM, August Goers <august@luminalt.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0732425331"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv0732425331WordSection1"><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Bill – </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">So it sounds like you have a corrugated metal roof installed by a handyman over an existing comp shingle roof? It might be wise to get your building department planchecker or inspector involved at this point since it sounds like you have a potential code violation. Adding PV to an already shotty roof setup will just compound problems down the line. That said, if you can’t trust the purlins (or what I think you are referring to as 1” x 4” stringers) to be structural members, then I suppose you could install long hanger bolts all the way through the metal roof and into the rafters? You could use a double jam-nut setup to mount your racking. Just an idea, but it is not an ideal situation. </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Good luck out there!</span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Best, August</span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>frenergy<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 30, 2016 7:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"> </div><div>Benn, August, etc</div><div> Sorry for omitting a somewhat crucial detail....below these stringers it is a "standard" residential stacked roof with 2X6 rafters on 16" centers with 1/2 " plywood deck. No purlins. I appreciate the feedback/good ideas.</div><div>Bill</div><div>Feather River Solar Electric</div><div> </div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">On 4/29/2016 3:28 PM, August Goers wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Benn,</span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5” TYPE 17 screws per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x wood purlin. The key is that the load path all the way down needs to be capable of handling the worst case loads. So we had to check that too. Some racking manufactures such as Unirac have online calculators to give point loads. </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Best, August</span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Benn Kilburn<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 29, 2016 2:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">August, et al;</div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">If the purlins are only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or....1"x anything, are you only relying on the 1" purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the vertical trusses below the purlins?</div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">We are working on a corrugated roof right now and using a Schletter roof bracket. The name of it escapes me at the moment. Maybe FixT? </div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">We are attaching to purlins which are 2"x6". I wouldn't think 1"x anything would provide enough pull-out?</div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">Benn Kilburn</div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">SkyFire Energy Inc. </div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal">780-906-7807</div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"> </div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br>On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:09 AM, August Goers <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:august@luminalt.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:august@luminalt.com">august@luminalt.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Hi Bill,</span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’ sounds a little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal with. If you have a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets screwed through the metal and into the purlins and then either run the solar rail up and down the roof or install a sub-rack system (with strut or angle aluminum) perpendicular to your solar rail. </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Best,</span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">August </span></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>frenergy<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"> </div><div>Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a "handyman". Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 stringers across the roof on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet (as you go from ridge to eaves). Of course the roofing screws are at the stringers. I'm sure he had a <i>great</i> reason for doing so. So now I have been asked to install an array on this roof. You can feel how "soft" the roof is as you walk on it of course because you are walking on air-below-metal for most of the roof. Stringer locations don't jive with possible feet/post locations for rail. I'm usually pretty good at problem solving but I'm accepting ideas.</div><div>Bill</div><pre>Feather River Solar Electric </pre><pre>Bill Battagin, Owner</pre><pre>4291 Nelson St.</pre><pre>Taylorsville, CA 95983</pre><pre>530.284.7849</pre><pre>CA Lic 874049</pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.frenergy.net/">www.frenergy.net</a></pre></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="color:windowtext;">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></span></div></div></blockquote><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><br><br><br></div><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</pre><pre> </pre><pre>List Address: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:</pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>List-Archive: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:</pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:</pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre> </pre></blockquote><div class="yiv0732425331MsoNormal"><br><br><br></div><pre>-- </pre><pre>Feather River Solar Electric </pre><pre>Bill Battagin, Owner</pre><pre>4291 Nelson St.</pre><pre>Taylorsville, CA 95983</pre><pre>530.284.7849</pre><pre>CA Lic 874049</pre><pre><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.frenergy.net/">www.frenergy.net</a></pre></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm<br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br>www.members.re-wrenches.org<br><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>