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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>I have had several similar successes with the Full River L-16 style AGM batteries too. The only drawback is for larger bank capacities, pushing 12 & 16 batteries to a bank.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Full River AGM get thumbs up in my book.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>For larger capacity, I have used the DEKA Unigy II also reconfigured the only real hassle is the horizontal install in a tight place is back breaker & a half.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>One note – the crawl space installation does not sound like it meets code……… Though I have been down there myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>208.721.7003 dana@solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>NABCEP # 051112-136 www.solarwork.biz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Palumbo<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 27, 2017 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] High End battery<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mac,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I have had good success using Full River AGM's in difficult situations. One system near the Canadian border here in Vermont had no homeowner care for two months in the winter. PV array became covered with snow and they had left their inverter on to run a refrigerator. Of course the batteries became discharged and they were in temperatures well below freezing. I was brought in to assess and service the situation. I found these 6v 250AH AGM's with about 4 volts each. I assumed they were ruined.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nope. I brought them back to my shop and warmed them up, charged them and then did a load test and they all tested out at or above manufacturer specs. They have been working well for another three years now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>David Palumbo <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Independent Power LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>462 Solar Way Drive<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hyde Park, VT 05655<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>802-371-8678 cell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>802-888-4917 home<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mac Lewis<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 27, 2017 8:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] High End battery<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Hi Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I've got a customer that has an older off-grid system with a 5 string ~2000 Ahr (No I didn't install this) L16 battery bank that is failing. Its a Trace SW 4024 system where the batteries are located in a difficult-to-access crawl space where I'm sure they never got watered.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>We'd like to have these characteristics:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>1. Modular (need to be able to get them to the crawl space)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>2. Maintenance free<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>3. Able to be abused and bounce back<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>4. Compatible with an Outback MX 60 charge controller (preferably)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>5. In case of charge controller failure, we'd like the batteries to be able to go over the winter with no charge and not be damaged<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>6. Need about 30-40 kWh bank size<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>7. Able to withstand cool temps (operate decently at 45F) withstand near freezing temps over winter (with no usage)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>8. Price tag isn't a big constraint with these customers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>What are some batteries you might recommend?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Thanks in advance<br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Mac Lewis<b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#FF9900'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#305A78'>"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." </span><b><span style='color:#686868'>-Sócrates</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#FF9900'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>