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    <p>There are many places these days where you can charge your car
      for free.  I believe the thinking is you get a few KW's from the
      charger at the mall (not that many, they aren't very fast
      chargers), however the mall is picking your pocket (I mean selling
      you their goods) while you're shopping there.  I see a potential
      abuse though of leaving your car there all day, charging (free),
      go home and sell those KW's to the grid during on-peak TOU.  Human
      nature....nasty stuff.  They'll have to figure out how to make it
      all fair and efficient.</p>
    <p>Bill<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Feather River Solar Electric            
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.frenergy.net">www.frenergy.net</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/2017 3:28 PM, Glenn Burt wrote:<br>
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        <div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">I
          think the Pika Energy also works at a high voltage with their
          batteries. Technology seems to be quite similar to Store Edge.</div>
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        <hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:
          11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span
          style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:bteitelbaum@aeesolar.com">Brian Teitelbaum</a></span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">‎2/‎22/‎2017 15:00</span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a></span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [RE-wrenches]
          Discharging a high voltage battery</span><br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
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            font-size: 11pt;">Hi Larry,</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
            font-size: 11pt;">This is not a new idea. It’s called
            “Vehicle-to-Grid” or “V2G”, and is a big subject of
            discussion in Europe.</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
            font-size: 11pt;">If everyone had an electric vehicle in
            their driveway, it would represent a huge (yuge?)
            distributed battery bank over the whole country. I think
            that’s a great idea.</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
            font-size: 11pt;">As far as I know, the SolarEdge “StorEdge”
            7.6 kW inverter is the only inverter with this capability
            right now, although many other inverter companies are
            working on inverters that can operate with high-voltage
            batteries. The StorEdge is designed to work with the Tesla
            home battery, which is basically a smaller version of the
            Model-S battery pack. The inverter would have to be
            programmable to work with the battery’s BMS, and limit the
            discharge so that the vehicle’s battery is only drained to
            some set-point. You wouldn’t want to completely drain the
            battery, at least not if you want to use the vehicle.</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
            font-size: 11pt;">I doubt that it would make any economic
            sense at this point in time, but the future is bright.</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
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            font-size: 11pt;">Brian</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";
            font-size: 11pt;">AEE Solar</span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:
                  "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size:
                  10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:
                "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size:
                10pt;"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Starlight Solar Power Systems<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:17 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Discharging a high voltage
                battery</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Wrenches,</p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Someone has asked me about discharging
            their EV battery into the grid. They have an existing grit
            tie system. What they want to do is connect a 5kW grid tie
            inverter to their 340 volt, 32kWh EV battery bank and feed
            the grid to discharge the battery. Why was not discussed but
            sure bugs me. </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">My uneducated guess is the inverter
              will be immediately damaged. My thought is how would it
              limit the input current? Or, is there such an inverter
              available that can do the job?</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Any input is appreciated. </p>
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                        <span style="color: black; font-family:
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                          font-size: 10.5pt;">Larry Crutcher</span><br>
                        <span style="color: black; font-family:
                          "Helvetica","sans-serif";
                          font-size: 10.5pt;">Starlight Solar Power
                          Systems</span></p>
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