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I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and
also with higher amp hour packs. My drill screams with a 5 AH
pack! I agree its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid
or NiiCad, but its still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">M18
lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost
fully discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Behalf Of </b>Glenn Burt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Most
battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries
are depleted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Do
they say that this is not so for this model?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirk Herander<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can
be programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app.
And yes the torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For
example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each
torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til
you have the values of each increment. Then program the
drill buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and you’re
done. Just press one of the four buttons on the drill to get
the required torque. The values are set in the drill even
with battery removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Here’s
one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new
M18 driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about
practicality in our trade.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Fink<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought the idea of being to preset
torque RPM settings from the app was good, my reasoning
being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password) for
installing racking lags, another set more delicately for
mounting equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and
the torque is not calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of
1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. The actual
torque is up to you to figure out.....so you still need
calibrated hand torque wrenches.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not enough to make me switch brands
(that would be super expensive)....and I'm not sure I like
the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really
simple, reliable tool. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM,
William Dorsett <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Pardon my
ignorance but what would be the purpose of a
smart phone app for a cordless drill? It’s not
like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can
imagine being up on a ladder, drilling with one
hand and adjusting at the same time with the
smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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10:12 AM<br>
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<p><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Don't tell
me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh</span></tt><o:p></o:p></p>
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11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt">Anyone out there
invested in these tools yet? Looks
interesting. Amongst other things, you can
custom program the cordless drill to
various speeds and torques using a smart
phone app.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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