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    I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and
    also with higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH
    pack!  I agree its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid
    or NiiCad, but its still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.<br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">M18
            lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost
            fully discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                RE-wrenches
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Glenn Burt<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key
                tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Most
            battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries
            are depleted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Do
            they say that this is not so for this model?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                RE-wrenches <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]">[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]</a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirk Herander<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key
                tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
            I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can
            be programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app.
            And yes the torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For
            example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each
            torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til
            you have the values of each increment. Then program the
            drill buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and you’re
            done. Just press one of the four buttons on the drill to get
            the required torque. The values are set in the drill even
            with battery removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Here’s
            one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new
            M18 driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about
            practicality in our trade.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            RE-wrenches [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Fink<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key
            tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I thought the idea of being to preset
            torque RPM settings from the app was good, my reasoning
            being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password) for
            installing racking lags, another set more delicately for
            mounting equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and
            the torque is not calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of
            1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. The actual
            torque is up to you to figure out.....so you still need
            calibrated hand torque wrenches.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Not enough to make me switch brands
              (that would be super expensive)....and I'm not sure I like
              the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really
              simple, reliable tool. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:9.5pt">Dan Fink</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.5pt">Adjunct
                                        Professor of Solar Energy
                                        Technology, Ecotech Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.5pt">IREC
                                        Certified Instructor™ for: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.5pt">~ PV
                                        Installation Professional<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.5pt">~ Small
                                        Wind Installer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.5pt">Executive
                                        Director, Buckville Energy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.5pt">NABCEP
                                        Registered Continuing Education
                                        Providers™<br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="tel:970.672.4342"
                                          target="_blank"><span
                                            style="color:#1155CC">970.672.4342</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                     <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM,
                  William Dorsett <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:wmdorsett@sbcglobal.net"
                    target="_blank">wmdorsett@sbcglobal.net</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Pardon my
                        ignorance but what would be the purpose of a
                        smart phone app for a cordless drill? It’s not
                        like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can
                        imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one
                        hand and adjusting at the same time with the
                        smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Bill
                        Dorsett</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Manhattan,
                        KS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                            RE-wrenches [mailto:<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
                              target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Warfel<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 26, 2016
                            10:12 AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee
                            M18 one key tools</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Don't tell
                              me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh</span></tt><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                            11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                              style="font-size:18.0pt">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                              style="font-size:18.0pt">Anyone out there
                              invested in these tools yet? Looks
                              interesting. Amongst other things, you can
                              custom program the cordless drill to
                              various speeds and torques using a smart
                              phone app.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
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                              style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                style="font-size:16.0pt">Kirk Herander</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                style="font-size:16.0pt">Owner|Principal,
                                VT Solar, LLC </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><i><span
                                  style="font-size:16.0pt">Celebrating
                                  our 25<sup>th</sup> Anniversary
                                  1991-2016</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                style="font-size:16.0pt"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.vermontsolarnow.com"
                                  target="_blank">www.vermontsolarnow.com</a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                              style="font-size:16.0pt">dba Vermont Solar
                              Engineering</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                              style="font-size:16.0pt">NABCEP<sup>TM  </sup>2003
                              Inaugural Certificant</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                              style="font-size:16.0pt">VT RE Incentive
                              Program Partner</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                              style="font-size:16.0pt"><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="tel:802.863.1202" target="_blank">802.863.1202</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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