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    I second uprading all firmware on all devices.  I had a recent FXR
    install that was dropping one of the inverters (and its leg)
    whenever the system tried to sell.  Latest firmware cured the
    issues.  <br>
    The industry is moving from us being electricians to becoming
    computer techs.  Retirement looks better each day.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/12/2016 6:08 AM, Wayne Irwin
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        <p>Very strange that all the programming is scrambled. <br>
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        <p>Recently we had a FXR system which had been working fine for
          nearly six months come up with an incompatibility error with
          the slave inverter even though the firmware was the most
          recent and the same for both inverters. After several failed
          attempts to re-upgrade the inverter firmware, we took a shot
          at upgrading the Mate 3 firmware which did work. We then again
          tried the inverters and it worked. System is now working again
          (for now) and the programming is all still valid.</p>
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              RE-wrenches
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org></a> on
              behalf of William Miller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:william@millersolar.com"><william@millersolar.com></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:26 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Programming
              Ghost</font>
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            <div>Ray:</div>
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            <div>I have no reason to believe anyone has been meddling.
              No one knows the password. It does look like some serious
              glitch. </div>
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            <div>William</div>
            <div><br>
              On Nov 10, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Ray Walters <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div>It almost sounds like someone got in there and tried
                to reprogram stuff themselves.  Have you installed the
                proper anti-Gremlin devices?<br>
                <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2016 12:34 PM,
                  William Miller wrote:<br>
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                    <div>I maintain an off-grid, 8 stack FX Outback
                      system with 3 charge controllers.  The system has
                      been on line for about 6 years.  It got upgraded
                      about 7 months ago with 2 Mate3s.</div>
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                    <div>About a week ago the system shutdown, leaving
                      the customer without power.  A maintenance worker
                      started a generator and power was restored.  I did
                      not hear about the situation for several days.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>A maintenance supervisor was dispatched
                      yesterday to work with me over the telephone to
                      see if we could restart the system.  The system
                      would only run if the inverter output breakers
                      were all off.  </div>
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                    <div>I examined the system via Optics.  I was very
                      surprised to see that the system programming was
                      absolutely scrambled.  This was so much so that
                      even the stacking settings were wrong.  For
                      example, inverter 2 was set as a Master, which we
                      all know will crash any system.  Other settings
                      were also found with very random values.</div>
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                    <div>This system was running prior to last Friday,
                      so the stacking at least must have been right
                      prior to the outage.  I am completely mystified as
                      to how this could have happened.  </div>
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                    <div>I am in conversation with Outback who is taking
                      this seriously.  I have not heard back from them
                      yet but I am curious if anyone else has
                      experienced this or anything similar.  I'd like to
                      broaden my knowledge on this situation to enhance
                      my understanding and to share any findings with
                      the group.</div>
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                    <div>Thank you in advance for any input.</div>
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                    <div>William Miller</div>
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