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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Yes Maverick, the Honda is an electric start & someone sold & tried to install an aftermarket start kit, several folks have worked on it and all to no avail.<i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><o:p></o:p></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Thanks on </span></i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>the battery suggestions I was about to call my Full River rep on Monday<i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>.<o:p></o:p></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'>_</span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'>_________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-no-proof:yes'>Dana Orzel</span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'>Great Solar Works, Inc - <span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>NABCEP # 051112-136<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> - <a href="http://www.solarwork.com"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'>O</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'> - 970.626.5253 <b>F</b> - 970.626.4140 c <b>- </b><span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>208.721.7003<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#4F6228;mso-no-proof:yes'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988</span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#4F6228;mso-no-proof:yes'>" <o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Maverick Brown<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Array/battery relationship (WAS Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Is that Honda an electric start? If so, what model it it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>As for batteries, I suggest Concorde AGM PVX-9150HT for 915Ah or Fullriver DC1150-2 for 1150Ah. Both are great choices and very rugged.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Concorde & FR both may already have them stocked there.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On Oct 14, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Dana <<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>This client is on Kauai, her cloudy <span class=apple-converted-space> </span>winter storms average 4-5 days. She has a generator [Honda] not an auto start, that several folks have tried to integrate as auto start with no success. Battery maintenance is a challenge<span class=apple-converted-space> </span> for her, as could be expected with a pile of T-105 style batteries, etc.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>I can hear folks saying “well maybe she should not be off grid.”</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>She does not have another living option & I feel just requires a minor upgrade & correction to a poor original install.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>I suggested a set of HUP Solar Ones & the freight was huge to the islands.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>_</span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>_________________________________________________________</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>Dana Orzel</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>Great Solar Works, Inc - <span class=apple-converted-space> </span>NABCEP # 051112-136</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com"><span style='color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.solarwork.com/"><span style='color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>O</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'> </span></span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D'>- 970.626.5253 <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>F</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>- 970.626.4140 c<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>-<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>208.721.7003</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#4F6228'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988</span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#4F6228'>" <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></u></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, October 14, 2016 3:56 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[RE-wrenches] Array/battery relationship (WAS Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries)</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Dana (and I'm curious if others agree),<br>I used to work with 4-5 days of storage, back with modules were expensive and batteries were relatively cheap. As in recent years these two have reversed - modules are cheap and batteries are dear - my fundamental design approach has changed. I now design around 2-3 days of storage with a larger array, as long as there's a backup generator in the system. I size to at least 100% of the projected winter average daily load.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br>The batteries recharge more quickly, including on partly cloudy days between storms. They spend more of their time full, thus keeping them happier and giving them as much or more life, even with more and deeper cycling. FLAs are easier to EQ, given the hotter charge rate. And the customer spends less.<br><br>You used to live in SW Colorado, a similar sunny winter climate. Is it the same in Idaho where you live now?<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>Allan<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Allan Sindelar</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com"><span style='color:purple'>allan@sindelarsolar.com</span></a></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired),<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Positive Energy, Inc.<br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On 10/14/2016 3:36 PM, Dana wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I recommend 4 days backup min & 5 days backup if budget allows of storage and Iron Edison were saying that 2 days was sufficient. To clarify - I said “magical” as in wondering if there was something special, I-E did not say this.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>_</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>_________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Dana Orzel<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Great Solar Works, Inc - <span class=apple-converted-space> </span>NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com"><span style='color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.solarwork.com/"><span style='color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>O</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>- 970.626.5253 <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>F</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>- 970.626.4140 c<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>-<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>208.721.7003<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><u><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988</span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>" <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></u></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Dan Fink<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, October 14, 2016 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Tom; I have never seen Iron Edison saying NiFe is "magical" -- do you have a specific webpage on their site that says this?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>All batteries have advantages and disadvantages, and also myriad technical issues for the installer to overcome. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br clear=all style='mso-special-character:line-break'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Dan Fink</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>IREC Certified Instructor™ for: </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>~ PV Installation Professional</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>~ Small Wind Installer</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Executive Director, Buckville Energy</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™<br><a href="tel:970.672.4342" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>970.672.4342</span></a></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Tom Duffy <<a href="mailto:Tom@solar-biz.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>Tom@solar-biz.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Hi Dana</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Two thoughts… how many days of autonomy are they quoting?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>If nickel Iron were this magical how come nobody has noticed them for the past 100 years?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Kind regards</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'>Tom Duffy</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'>Senior Solar Design Engineer</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'><image001.jpg></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:maroon'>E-Mail:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'><a href="mailto:tom@solar-biz.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>tom@solar-biz.com</span></a></span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><i><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'>**Please note my new email – You will now be able to find me at:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></i></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'><a href="mailto:tom@solar-biz.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>tom@solar-biz.com</span></a><i>Please update your records so we don’t lose touch!**</i></span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:maroon'>Main Number:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'><a href="tel:888-826-0939" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>888-826-0939</span></a></span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:maroon'>Panama Office:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'><a href="tel:507-836-5588%20X%20122" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>507-836-5588 X 122</span></a></span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:maroon'>Direct Toll Free:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'> 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#006600'> </span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1;background:white'><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Dana<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, October 14, 2016 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'RE-wrenches' <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[RE-wrenches] Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Good Morning All,</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I have a charity case client that needs 760 to 900 AHR at 24 VDC. I have installed HUP Solar One Batteries for 20+ years and do not have any experience with the Iron Edison battery. My client went to Iron Edison & was told that 360 AHR at 24 VDC would cover the same AHR as a 760 to 900 AHR in FLA. I understand you can use the IE deeper typically than a FLA.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Math is math to me & how I have sized [successfully for years] Is there something I am missing or has my client been misinformed?<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>__________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Dana Orzel<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.solarwork.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span 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