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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>This client is on Kauai, her cloudy<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>winter storms average 4-5 days. She has a generator [Honda] not an auto start, that several folks have tried to integrate as auto start with no success. Battery maintenance is a challenge <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>for her, as could be expected with a pile of T-105 style batteries, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>I can hear folks saying “well maybe she should not be off grid.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>She does not have another living option & I feel just requires a minor upgrade & correction to a poor original install.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'>I suggested a set of HUP Solar Ones & the freight was huge to the islands.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-no-proof:yes'>_</span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-no-proof:yes'>_________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-no-proof:yes'>Dana Orzel</span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'>Great Solar Works, Inc - <span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>NABCEP # 051112-136<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> - <a href="http://www.solarwork.com"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'>O</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#17365D;mso-no-proof:yes'> - 970.626.5253 <b>F</b> - 970.626.4140 c <b>- </b><span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>208.721.7003<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#4F6228;mso-no-proof:yes'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988</span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#4F6228;mso-no-proof:yes'>" <o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 14, 2016 3:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Array/battery relationship (WAS Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Dana (and I'm curious if others agree),<br>I used to work with 4-5 days of storage, back with modules were expensive and batteries were relatively cheap. As in recent years these two have reversed - modules are cheap and batteries are dear - my fundamental design approach has changed. I now design around 2-3 days of storage with a larger array, as long as there's a backup generator in the system. I size to at least 100% of the projected winter average daily load. <br><br>The batteries recharge more quickly, including on partly cloudy days between storms. They spend more of their time full, thus keeping them happier and giving them as much or more life, even with more and deeper cycling. FLAs are easier to EQ, given the hotter charge rate. And the customer spends less.<br><br>You used to live in SW Colorado, a similar sunny winter climate. Is it the same in Idaho where you live now? <br>Allan<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), <span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>Positive Energy, Inc.</span><br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"MS Mincho"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On 10/14/2016 3:36 PM, Dana wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'>I recommend 4 days backup min & 5 days backup if budget allows of storage and Iron Edison were saying that 2 days was sufficient. To clarify - I said “magical” as in wondering if there was something special, I-E did not say this.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>_</span>_________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dana Orzel <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Great Solar Works, Inc - <span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>NABCEP # 051112-136</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> - <a href="http://www.solarwork.com"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>O</b> - 970.626.5253 <b>F</b> - 970.626.4140 c <b>- </b><span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>208.721.7003</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988</u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>" </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Fink<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 14, 2016 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tom; I have never seen Iron Edison saying NiFe is "magical" -- do you have a specific webpage on their site that says this?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>All batteries have advantages and disadvantages, and also myriad technical issues for the installer to overcome. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all style='mso-special-character:line-break'><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Dan Fink</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>IREC Certified Instructor™ for: </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>~ PV Installation Professional</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>~ Small Wind Installer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Executive Director, Buckville Energy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™<br><a href="tel:970.672.4342" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>970.672.4342</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Tom Duffy <<a href="mailto:Tom@solar-biz.com" target="_blank">Tom@solar-biz.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi Dana</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Two thoughts… how many days of autonomy are they quoting?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If nickel Iron were this magical how come nobody has noticed them for the past 100 years?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kind regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#006600'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-outline-level:1'><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dana<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 14, 2016 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches' <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic , sans-serif","serif"'>Good Morning All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic , sans-serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic , sans-serif","serif"'>I have a charity case client that needs 760 to 900 AHR at 24 VDC. I have installed HUP Solar One Batteries for 20+ years and do not have any experience with the Iron Edison battery. My client went to Iron Edison & was told that 360 AHR at 24 VDC would cover the same AHR as a 760 to 900 AHR in FLA. I understand you can use the IE deeper typically than a FLA.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic , sans-serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic , sans-serif","serif"'>Math is math to me & how I have sized [successfully for years] Is there something I am missing or has my client been misinformed? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic , sans-serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>__________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dana Orzel <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#17365D'>dana@solarwork.com</span></a> - <a href="http://www.solarwork.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#17365D'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>O</b> - <a href="tel:970.626.5253" target="_blank">970.626.5253</a> <b>F</b> - <a href="tel:970.626.4140" target="_blank">970.626.4140</a> c <b>- </b><a href="tel:208.721.7003" target="_blank">208.721.7003</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><u>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988</u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>" </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'><![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>