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<br class=""><div><div class="">On Oct 13, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Steve Higgins <<a href="mailto:steve@surrette.com" class="">steve@surrette.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Correction... <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Watermiser caps are plastic balls, not palladium balls... I've never cut one open, maybe something I should do someday. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks Larry! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" class="">
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<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class="h5">On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:larry@starlightsolar.com" target="_blank" class="">larry@starlightsolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Battery Wrenches,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The problem with recombination style caps is they require using a low absorb voltage, about 2.35 to 2.4 Vpc. I am a big fan of aggressive charge voltage for many flooded battery types. Doing so produces more evolution of gasses. These and other caps can be overwhelmed by this. In addition, the caps should be removed for equalization charges. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Water Miser caps are not recombination caps, they use condensing beads to trap moisture and drip back into the cell. We have sold many hundreds of Water Miser caps and some customers report up to 5 months between watering. </div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><br class=""><span class="">Larry Crutcher</span><span class="m_4941117508433283721HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class=""><span class="">Starlight Solar Power Systems</span><br class=""></font></span></div></div><br class="m_4941117508433283721m_-2261847841798013261Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="m_4941117508433283721m_-2261847841798013261Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><br class="m_4941117508433283721m_-2261847841798013261Apple-interchange-newline">
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