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--></style></head><body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Solid advice from both Ray and Allan. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Switching to a sine-wave inverter will solve the controller issue, but not the 300W glow bar draining the batteries. Switching to a Peerless-Premier would solve that problem, or use an old Wedgewood range like I do. My 6-burner/two oven gas Wedgewood from the early 40’s works great, and will likely last for centuries, but it does take 4 gorillas to move the damn thing. It must weigh 600 lbs, although I’ve never weighed it.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Brian</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">AEE Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 4:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Kristopher,<br>Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely to last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues.<br>If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier (<a href="http://www.premierrange.com">www.premierrange.com</a>). As of my last contact with them a few years ago, they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards that were designed for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow bars for the oven. Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front with sealed burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar. <br>Allan</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com"><u>allan@sindelarsolar.com</u></a></span><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.<br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks Ray,</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">This is a circa 2002 inverter. I may just tell them to go to a pilot light stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).</p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Kris</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank"><u>ray@solarray.com</u></a>> wrote:</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years. As soon as I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe. The good old DR inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years back in the 90s. I for the most part quit selling them though, as even though most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature failures. I would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the extra harmonic distortion. Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably would be better going to something older form Craig's list with no AC connection at all.<br><br></p><pre>R.Ray Walters</pre><pre>CTO, Solarray, Inc</pre><pre>Nabcep Certified PV Installer, </pre><pre>Licensed Master Electrician</pre><pre>Solar Design Engineer</pre><pre><a href="tel:303%20505-8760" target="_blank"><u>303 505-8760</u></a></pre><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:</p></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Wrenches,</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the last few months. The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by a Xantrex DR1512. Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the appliance company supplied.</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably Whirlpool)? </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks tons,</p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Kris<br clear="all"></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>-- </p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Shine On!<br><br>Kris Schmid<br>Legacy Solar, LLC<br>864 Clam Falls Trail<br>Frederic, WI 54837<br><a href="http://www.legacysolar.com" target="_blank"><u>www.legacysolar.com</u></a><br><a href="tel:715-653-4295" target="_blank"><u>715-653-4295</u></a><br>NABCEP Certified PV Installer<br>Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician<br>BSEE</p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br></p></div></div><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</pre><pre> </pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u>RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</u></a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:</pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</u></a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank"><u>http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</u></a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:</pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank"><u>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</u></a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:</pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u>www.members.re-wrenches.org</u></a></pre><pre> </pre></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><u>RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</u></a> Change listserver email address & settings: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</u></a> List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank"><u>http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</u></a> List rules & etiquette: <a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank"><u>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</u></a> Check out or update participant bios: <a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank"><u>www.members.re-wrenches.org</u></a> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- </p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Shine On! 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