<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I also concurr, NEVER use wire nuts on the roof, I've personally installed them, and come back 3-4 years later, and found them melted. Wire nuts are simply for insulating a splice, not to be counted on for the mechanical connection. I make my guys twist solid wire together before installing a wire nut. Solid to stranded is tougher, but can be done correctly.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Mike</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Benn Kilburn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:benn@skyfireenergy.com" target="_blank">benn@skyfireenergy.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The reason i'm asking is that the only time i have seen a short, first-hand, in a wire nut, was because it appeared that one wire was pushed down rather than binding with the other wire, which would have happened if the wires were not held tightly when the nut was twisted on. Also, it was a stranded wire (that was pushed down) being connected to a solid wire, which is acceptable, but care must be taken to do it properly.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Also, on all the Ideal wire nut packages I have, the instructions say to twist the wire nut on until there are two visible twists in the wire. I suppose this is to ensure the twist/connection is sufficient to make a solid connection and perhaps to keep the wires together if the wire nut is removed.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The ones in this photo do not look like they were installed as per the instructions, which brings how much attention was put in to installing them in the first place.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">I've always questioned the why wire nuts are cautioned against, especially considering how many wire nuts are used in residential and commercial jobs. I'm sure if there was a legit issue with them then insurance companies would insist they not be used, such as aluminum wiring?<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><p style="font-size:13px;margin:0px;padding:1em 0px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px"></p><div style="text-align:left"><strong style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Benn Kilburn <span style="font-size:9px"></span></strong></div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Jerry Shafer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">All the other nuts are tight so l cant not say it was or not but l see this alot and this was one that was caught just at the right time. <br><span><font color="#888888">
Jerry</font></span></p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 6, 2016 8:44 AM, "Benn Kilburn" <<a href="mailto:benn@skyfireenergy.com" target="_blank">benn@skyfireenergy.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Jerry,</div><div>Can you confirm that this was caused by a failure of the wire nut, itself, and not due to user error (not properly stripping enough jacket, inserting even length wires and sufficiently twisting on the wire nut)<br><br>Benn Kilburn<div>SkyFire Energy Inc. </div><div><a href="tel:780-906-7807" value="+17809067807" target="_blank">780-906-7807</a></div></div><div><br>On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Wrenches<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 5, 2016 4:52 PM, "Jerry Shafer" <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">To my fellow wrenches<br>
It comes up every so often and with DC, I will not use, approve or pass any wire nuts on any DC side. Some say its OK but the facts are they will fail, this connection was just six years and when l opened the junction box it was glowing and by the looks of it has for some time. There are 8 strings 2 per string and thats a 12.5 % failure rate (the other one was completely distroyed) not to mention the fire hazard in a PVC junction box.<br>
Please pass this along and tell everyone to stop using these. <br>
Jerry</p>
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