<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I haven’t use the 2v, but have used many 6v L-16s <div class="">Been in 2 years at most.</div><div class="">so far so good.</div><div class="">They are about 10lbs heavier than either a Trojan or Rolls L-16/flooded.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">jay</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Gary Willett <<a href="mailto:Gary@icarussolarservices.com" class="">Gary@IcarusSolarServices.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><p class="">Larry:</p><p class="">What is your experience with FullRiver DC1150-2 2V 1150AH AGM L16
battery?</p><p class="">Regards,</p>
Gary Willett<br class="">
Icarus Engineering LLC<br class="">
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</p><p class="">On 9/1/16 8:51 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote:<br class="">
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Hear, Hear, Gary, listen to the Graybeards.
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<div class="">One thing I would like to mention here. Over the
last 3 years, I have seen a dramatic increase of early failures
of Lifeline (like Sun Xtender, made by Concorde) batteries. I
have been selling and installing Lifeline since 2004 and have
hundreds of 8-12 year old battery systems being used. I have not
been able to identify any cause related to use. </div>
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<div class="">So, has anyone seen Sun Xtender or Concorde early
failures in recent years? </div>
<div class="">BTW, we have been selling FullRiver batteries for a
few years now with no failures and very happy customers.</div>
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<span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Larry
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<span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Starlight
Solar Power Systems</span><br style="orphans: 2; widows:
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342-9103</span></div>
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I think it would be a waste of time to load test
a sealed battery that is 9 years old. Even at
only 20% discharge, that battery only has 2800
cycles. At 80% discharge, its 550 cycles. The
daily system cycle is probably roughly a 10%
cycle, coupled with the frequent deep cycles.
We have been seeing 5 to 7 years in GTB systems
with regular sealed batteries. Even in float
mode, they don't last forever.<br class="">
Also the customer has already done a basic load
test, and the battery is failing. Its only a
matter of time before you start seeing cell
failures, and then the system won't even work
when the grid is up.<br class="">
I'd just replace the set on your next trip.<br class="">
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<div class="">You can do a carbon pile test
but the best way is testing under several
conditions. Here is an option real easy and
maybe faster, put a volt meter on each
battery under constant charge conditions,
higher volts on one battery meens high
resistance in battery, low volts meens low
resistance, either extreme can be an issue.
Then let sit for at least an hour with no
load and check the volts, next put a fixed
load on the system, again a volt meter check
each battery, here you may find a lower
reading then the rest, there is the problem,
now replace the entire bank not just the
single battery. This is an easy test and the
customer can see it easily too.</div>
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">We
have a grid tied battery backup system
that uses 8 Sun Xtender PVX-2120L
batteries, about 9 years old. The grid
has been going out frequently – about 4
times in the past 3 weeks. When the grid
goes out, the battery voltage gets too
low and shuts the system down pretty
quickly. One of the times, this happened
within 4 hours. We want to test the
capacity of the batteries and we have a
testing procedure from Concorde that
seems like it would take a lot of time.
Is there a quick way to test the battery
capacity? <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Gary<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><span style="" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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