<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Ha that's a good one. </div><div><br></div><div>But still good to know if they were murdered or had defects. </div><div><br></div><div>While I also have had early failures on every brand, that's earlier than most I've seen</div><div>Usually it's outside of warranty, of course. </div><div><br></div><div>Jay</div><div><br>On Aug 24, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    Trojan L 16s have a known issue with premature cell failures.  The
    T105s seem to still be fine, but I won't sell the L16 anymore.  <br>
    SG readings don't even matter when you have an obvious cell
    failure.  Its like doing blood work on a corpse.<br>
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Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/24/2016 8:36 AM, Drake wrote:<br>
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      The batteries were tested with a glass bulb, turkey baster type
      hydrometer. The SG read higher than the scale on all the
      batteries. The
      electrolyte was clear. The batteries were not too old, maybe three
      years,
      with some newer ones, as others in the bank had failed. The
      corrosion was
      notable. I did not install the batteries, so don't know if the
      battery
      jumpers were cleaned at installation. Could terminal corrosion
      have
      aggravated the problem in anyway?<br>
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      At 10:01 AM 8/24/2016, you wrote:<br>
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        How are you reading the SG?<br>
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        <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:45 PM<br>
        <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
        <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Battery issue<br>
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        Hello Wrenches,<br>
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        I was analyzing a string of 8 Trojan L-16 batteries with badly
        corroded
        terminals. The specific gravity read perfect on each battery.
        Two of the
        batteries read low voltage; about 4.2 volts.It seems like one
        cell's
        worth of voltage wasn't showing up on each battery. Has anyone
        seen this
        before? <br>
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        What would cause this? How can the specific gravity be right?<br>
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        Thanks,<br>
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