<div dir="ltr">Hi Mark,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for that.  It makes sense.  My preference would be language that said "utility-interactive current" instead of "AC output current".  For a bi-directional inverter, I can see how an inspector would assume that the AC output current would be the current supplying the critical load panel and cause confusion.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Mark Westbrock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:westbrock@positiveenergysolar.com" target="_blank">westbrock@positiveenergysolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Hi Mac,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The wording changed because in the 2011 NEC 705.12(D) you had to use the size of your backfeed breaker in calculating the busbar loading, but in 2014, 705.12(D)(2)(3)(b) now says "125 percent of the inverter output circuit current and the rating of the OCPD protecting the busbar shall not exceed 120%".  </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">So, the 2014 wording basically allows all inverters to follow the exception that used to be there for hybrid inverters.  I hope that helps.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Cheers,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Mark</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font><font><font><font>----</font></font></font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px"><font color="#0076be">Mark Westbrock</font><font color="#666666">|  VP, Branch Manager |  Employee Owner</font></span></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12.8px"><font color="#666666" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68);display:inline">NABCEP™ Certified PV Installation Professional</div></span></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">NABCEP™ Certified </span><font color="#666666" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68);display:inline">Technical Sales Professional</div></span></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">NM EE98J Licensed Electrician</span><font color="#666666" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px"><br></span></font><div><font color="#666666" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px">510 S. Main St., Las Cruces, NM 88001</span></font></div><div><font color="#666666" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px">cell  <a href="tel:575.640.2432" value="+15756402432" target="_blank">575.640.2432</a> |  office  <a href="tel:575.524.2030" value="+15755242030" target="_blank">575.524.2030</a></span></font></div><div><font color="#3d85c6" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px"><a href="mailto:Your.Email@PositiveEnergySolar.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">mw@PositiveEnergySolar.com </a></span></font></div><div><font color="#3d85c6" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px"><a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.PositiveEnergySolar.com</a></span></font></div><div><font color="#3d85c6" face="Calibri"><br></font></div><div><a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.positiveenergysolar.com/wp-content/uploads/Positive-Energy-Solar-horizxs.png" alt=""></a><font color="#3d85c6" face="Calibri"><br></font></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Mac Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maclewis1@gmail.com" target="_blank">maclewis1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Hello wrenches,<div><br></div><div>I am looking for the exception to the 120% rule in the 2014 code that allowed for compliance to the 120% rule to be based on the utility-interactive current as opposed to the backfeed breaker size for hybrid inverter.  I hope this still exists, but I'm having a hard time finding it in the 2014 code.  In 2011 it was 705.12(D)2 Exception.  That was nice clear language that all inspectors accepted, I'm hoping the same exists for the 2014 code.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance code experts</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><br></div><div><font color="#305A78" face="'times new roman', serif"><br></font></div><div><br></div>Mac Lewis<br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;color:rgb(255,153,0)"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><p align="left"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:small"><span style="font-family:arial;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(48,90,120)"><font face="'times new roman', serif">"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." </font><span style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(104,104,104)"><font face="'times new roman', serif">-Sócrates</font></span></span></span></font></p></font></b></span></div>
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