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<p>What could be simpler?</p>
<p>For some reason I can't help think of the Great Leap Forward in
Chine where Mao had all the peasants gathering up all the iron
objects and melting them down in small furnaces to help increase
steel production. Of course none of the "steel" was any good.</p>
<p>I guess it is because here I see a bunch of great industrial
control equipment stuffed into a tiny box and dropped in someones
basement. That's alot of stuff waiting to break or hang up or
reset or something.</p>
<p>I really have to wonder what the operating state of this piece of
equipment will be in 3 years and if still operational, how many
person-hours of support and maintenance will have been expended.</p>
<p>Mark Frye<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Here's the internals of the one we installed.
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<div>It's a Radian, the batteries are Sony, there's a PLC in the
door controlling everything, and a Vera Z-Wave controller for
the programmable outlets.</div>
<div>The BMS is on the door, connected by the long cable you see
at the bottom. It's not really long enough, which I complained
about.</div>
<div>The transfer switch is a Generac component, very reliable
unit, rated at 200A.</div>
<div>There is a DIN rail next to the inverter that holds all the
internal wiring, metering, external connections.</div>
<div>One thing I would advocate, never try to make any
connections with this unit powered up. It is very tight in
there and the risk of touching a live terminal is high.</div>
<div>There is a 200A main breaker and a battery breaker, which
is software controlled for powering down from the front panel.
Startup requires holding in a DC breaker for the electronics
for a few seconds then engaging the main battery breaker. The
instructions says five seconds but I find it takes about 15.</div>
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<p>Enclosed is a photo of what appears to be a test/lab
Sonnen system published in the 01/30/2016 edition of
"Power Magazine.</p>
<p>Can plainly see the 8kW Outback Radian inverter and I
assume four 12V Sonnen (Sony?) 8kWh Lithium-Ion
batteries. Assume this is a "standard" 48V Radian
inverter.<br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Gary Willett</p>
<p>Icarus Engineering LLC<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, correct on both. The generator
support is there, I did not use it.</div>
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<div>Nice finish on the Sonnen install. It
looks fabulous. My understanding is the Eco
2-8 integrate the 4kW radian, and the 10-16
incorporates the 8kW radian. I assume
generator support is fully supported</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I promised a picture of
the Sonnen installation. As these
units are getting close to being
appliances in the same vein as home
audio, we wanted to have a clean
finish so we made some mill work to
complete the top of the unit to the
ceiling and hide the ugly conduits.
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