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    <p>UL evaluates products on internal temperature rises while it is
      used normally.</p>
    <p>They also evaluate the products under abnormal use, in various
      ways.<br>
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    <p>It may or may not have a fan.  If you look inside an inverter,
      you will see the same type of</p>
    <p>things....  Large external battery cables connecting to smaller
      internal cables and/or</p>
    <p>bus-bars and circuit board traces.  All sorts of things that
      probably are not allowed</p>
    <p>with NEC.</p>
    <p><br>
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    <p>I think I  saw a temperature of 150 degrees F mentioned here. 
      That's nothing</p>
    <p>compared to the highest temperatures seen in certain parts of the
      products.</p>
    <p>Some wire, like in some transformer classes can reach as high as
      220 degrees C (428 F) !</p>
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    <p>boB<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2016 11:39 AM, Kevin Pegg
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
            Daniel,
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Appreciate
            your thoughts on this.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-
            This wire is contained inside 2" flexible metallic conduit,
            approx. 3' long from the alternator to the external breaker.
            Some of it is in free air, but most is contained within the
            conduit. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-
            the main breaker is a 100% rated 175A.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-
            This is an industrial generator is rated for continual
            operation at full load, and my expectations is all the
            wiring in that unit is suited to that. Will the site
            actually draw that? It is entirely possible during heavy
            loads & concurrent battery charging that it could well
            be running at max load for hrs at a time.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            plastic bushing is easy to remedy, as is the ground lug.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            wire is where I am not sure what to do. Everything I am
            hearing tells me that the #4 wire is undersized. So there is
            a dilemma. If I replace the wires myself then I believe I
            have voided the UL certification. But think have made a
            safer engine for my client. At the end of the day, it will
            be me who the client is calling if there is an issue.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just
            for kicks I opened up a couple 25 kW gens and factory wiring
            was either # 2 or # 4 for this same purpose. Hmm.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                lang="EN-US"> RE-wrenches
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Young<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> May-25-16 7:24 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator factory
                wiring issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Kevin,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Based on what the engineer said, I think you
            both make valid points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">On the 4AWG wire:
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Type Z wire (150 C insulation) is rated for
            190A based on 2014NEC table 310.15(B)(19). It’s rated for
            120A when in conduit. So is this wire where you might call
            it in conduit or free air? I imagine the inside of a
            generator enclosure is somewhere in the middle. Also I
            assume this is Z type or similar based on the response
            stating 150 F (I know he meant C) wiring is used.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Is this on a 175A breaker? If so then it should
            only pull 140A continuous (maybe it’s a 100% rated
            breaker?). And that really would not be great for a
            generator. Usually we only design for a maximum of 80%
            loading on a generator depending on elevation and a few
            other de-rate factors. In reality do you expect more than
            120A to be a true “continuous” load on this unit. I don’t
            know the answer, just worth thinking about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Plastic bushings:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">I sure would want them in a vibrating machine
            like a generator, but if UL does not force them to, don’t
            expect them to include it. (Capitalism at work). You might
            be able to use an electricians trick where you cut a PVC
            bushing and slip it over the existing wire, then you can
            thread it in the end of the fitting and it is 95% as good as
            a normally installed bushing…. I would not do it on a new
            install, but it’s a useful trick when you walk up on
            existing mistakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Lug:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">You could continuity test it to see if it’s a
            good connection, otherwise that strikes me as no good
            either. Just another cost saving step for the manu at the
            clients expense in my opinion. It’ll work fine for now, but
            not likely in 5-10yrs as corrosion sets in. I’d just throw a
            star washer underneath if possible, but it sounds like the
            stud is not long enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">So there is a little bitta’ code and a lotta’
            opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">With Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">Daniel Young,
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<sup>TM</sup>:
              Cert #031508-90<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                lang="EN-US"> RE-wrenches [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Pegg<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:14 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Generator factory wiring
                issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Wrenches,
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Recently,
            we took delivery of a 40 kW LPG generator made by Gillette.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Inspecting
            the factory wiring of the unit, I had some concerns which
            are outlined in detail below, with an engineer's response
            inline. The concerns are using #4 wire to pull 175A; no
            plastic bushings on metallic conduit, and ground lugs on top
            of painted surfaces / and insufficiently torqued.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
            engineer response has left me somewhat baffled / frustrated
            in that I do not feel that actual issues have been
            addressed. I don't really care what UL or any other
            authority tells me - pulling 175A continually for many hrs
            through a #4 wire I think is asking for trouble. And my
            customer won't really care about what the UL ratings say if
            they are dealing with a melted alternator.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Am
            I missing something here?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">RE: SP-410-1-1LO     S/N:  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">I am responding to the concerns written below
            both in the capacity as designer and as U.L. liaison.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">               <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">We have received this generator, mostly intact.
            Some freight damage to the battery support cross member due
            to forks not extending the full depth of the crate, and are
            working with the freight company to resolve that. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">Sorry for the experienced freight damage.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">               <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">However, there are some SERIOUS and DANGEROUS
            issues pertaining to the wiring of the alternator! It is
            obvious that wiring was not done by an electrician.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">There are no serious or dangerous issues on
            this (built to U.L. recognized spec) Gillette Generator as
            referred to in this writing. And – you are correct- this
            wiring, as ‘factory wiring and not ‘field’ wiring, does not
            require or use the specific qualifications of a licensed
            electrician. The well trained/supervised workers here at
            Gillette have many years of experience building the product
            and are guided as need by a competent engineering staff.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">Specifically:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">- Alternator to circuit breaker wiring was done
            with #4 wire (rated 60A max). Per your own load chart inside
            the breaker enclosure (photo attached), that wire should be
            4/0 to carry the 175A that this generator is capable of
            producing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">This observation is incorrect. The load wiring
            sizing schedule affixed to the side of the circuit breaker
            box is for ‘field connectivity’ at 75 deg. F. We do our
            ‘factory wiring ‘ on a different schedule using load cabling
            from the generator to the top of the circuit breaker rated
            at 150 deg. F. All of this cabling has been done, tested and
            proven by U.L </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">- There were no plastic bushings (see photo)
            where the wires exit the metal conduit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">The conduit bushing involved is the correct
            U.L. approved component for the installation of spiral wound
            metal conduit required to be installed on ‘open’ style
            generator assemblies. A plastic bushing is NOT required as
            this is again ‘factory wiring’, not ‘field wiring.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">- What would have happened here is the wire
            heats up due to gross under sizing, melts the insulation,
            and shorts it out. Resulting in a fire or destruction of the
            brand new alternator, and the associated legal proceedings
            involving all parties and a general nightmare for all of
            us. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> disagree, on several fronts. Referencing the
            specification standard U.L. 2200, many times- local
            inspectors blur the line between its dominance for standby
            generator systems and NEC-70 (NEC- code). The former covers
            ‘factory’ design wiring on stationary standby generators
            subject to witness testing by a U.L. certified
            representative. The latter applies to ‘field wiring’- that
            is anything outside the box including connection conduits,
            load wiring ( at 75 deg. F) transfer switches, distribution
            panes and the like. As resident designer for the past
            twenty-six years, I have myself- written eight
            standards/code rebuttals successfully, both for U.L. and
            local inspectors. Comparing a 4ga, 2ga, 1ga and the like
            against a different class of wiring such as a 4/0 would
            certainly be cause for alarm. But, clearly here</span><span
            class="apple-converted-space"><span
              style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
              lang="EN-US"> </span></span><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
              lang="EN-US">the alarm is unwarranted</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">.   </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">                - the ground lug on the
            alternator was not fastened properly (a short stud with a
            nut on it - no way to get proper torque on it - should be a
            bolt), and both this lug and the lug inside the breaker
            enclosure was fitted on top of a painted surface. Every
            electrician knows you need to scrape off the paint so as to
            allow for proper conductivity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">This lug is not supplied by us. It is supplied
            as part of the generator construction built by Marathon.
            Marathon generators are certified for U.L. 1004B- generator
            assemblies and U.L. 1446 for insulation. This is the
            equipment issued as part of that U.L. certified design. as
            to their design vs. a ‘bolt’ going into the threads of the
            hole-  if it was really an issue, it would not have passed
            their U.L. certification testing. Their generator assemblies
            bear their U.L. file certification under R/C (JZGZ2) and
            listing (JZGZ). In regards to the paint removal, the engine
            and generator are cable grounded to the frame of the
            generator assembly and serrated hardware is used during
            assembly to scratch into the painted surfaces of the boxes
            and frame. As you notice in the picture- the threads in the
            generator housing sleeve- are not painted.</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">                These are issues that we are
            able to remedy. But my client, being very hands on has
            noticed this and inquired, quite reasonably, as to why they
            are paying Energy Alternatives to repair something that they
            paid for and should have been delivered properly done in the
            first place?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">To my findings, there is no warrantable work
            required.</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">                I think the fairest solution to
            this is for us to remedy these defects and to have Collicutt
            reimburse use for time and materials. I will complete the
            work and send you the total bill for compensation unless you
            would like to approach this in a different method. We are
            hoping to go live with this unit in the next few days once
            the gas fitting is completed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">As stated above- Not required.</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">I hope these responses help clarify the items
            in question.</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"
            lang="EN-US"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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