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Lena and all,<br>
I was watching this thread closely, as I have shared your concerns
and I was hoping to hear of any new solutions. In this thread I hear
of Gillette (always positively over the years that this question has
come up), one 5.5kW Onan RV set (120V only and too small for all but
an Outback VFX at close to sea level), and Hardy diesel units. I
have nothing to add to these suggestions.<br>
<br>
I went out on a limb a few years ago in suggesting the Generac
EcoGen, hoping that this would fill this need and restore Generac as
a worthy name. I think now I have to just say "eh..." - yes, it
works, but too many problems have been noted here, and Generac's
dealer support system is poorly suited to the off grid market.<br>
<br>
Thank you to all who replied. <br>
Allan<br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt">NABCEP Certified PV
Installation Professional<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/28/2016 10:19 AM, Lena Wilensky
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<div dir="ltr">I did some searches on the list for what folks are
doing for off-grid propane generators these days, but all the
threads I found were from 5-6 yrs ago, so I was hoping to get
some more current info.
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<div>We're looking for about a 10kw+ propane unit (big derate at
altitude), and we run into 2 main problem areas:</div>
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<div>First is the warranty - either there are no units
warranteed for off-grid use, or there are only a couple of
models and the warranty is short (1 year).</div>
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<div>Second, and perhaps larger, is all the loads that now come
with the "off-grid" units. The computer takes some, but
mostly the "cold weather kit" aka carb heater must be
installed in our climate (to actually start, but also for
warrantee), and it's set up to be on a thermostat (read: "on
all the time from Nov-April" here in the mountains).
According to the Kohler tech support it takes a steady 50W. We
have set up older units to do battery charge only during the
day, and have the carb heater on a manual switch, but it
sounds like we can't really get at these circuits anymore
since they're all pre-configured and pre-wired in the guts of
the genset computer.</div>
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<div>The Kohler and Onan support folks said both these issues
are due to EPA considering off-grid use as prime power as
opposed to standby, so they are held to tougher emissions
standards.</div>
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<div>Whatever the reasons, we're wondering what people are
actually doing these days - still the standby units they
kind-of warrantee for off-grid? 12RES from Kohler and the 13kw
unit from Onan? Generac? Have folks been going back to the
smaller gas units from Honda and running them more? And how
are cold climate folks dealing with the heating issue?</div>
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<div>Any suggestions appreciated!</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Lena Wilensky<br>
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