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#yiv4449929903 </style><div><div class="yiv4449929903WordSection1"><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">Wrenches:</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">This approach is emblematic of the cheapening of the solar industry. If a contractor cannot be bothered to get on a roof to provide an accurate assessment of the site, I wonder if they will be honest if it turns out there are shading or other issues not anticipated? The entry level installer will never notice shading problems. If there are undocumented shading issues, the consumer may never know they are being cheated out of some of the return on their investment.</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">This is true also about the condition of the roof and electrical infrastructure. We have seen the contracts offered by some of our competition. They get the job by low-balling estimates and then make up the difference by contract “adders.”</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">I believe that at some point a competent professional needs to get out of the office and in the field to evaluate each and every job before the contract is offered or the customer suffers. I caution consumers: if no one looked carefully at your roof and your electrical then you are not dealing with a reputable contractor.</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">William Miller</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">PS: The Pathfinder is still a reliable, accurate alternative. If you apply the values on the chart to a model adjusted for pitch, azimuth and local insolation you can get very accurate values for shading. Those who can create a spreadsheet tool will find the results can be tabulated in short order.</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="">Wm</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><img id="yiv4449929903Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:rskow6oCq6ElkOgn42Dm" alt="Gradient Cap_mini" height="28" width="64"><br clear="none">Lic 773985<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.millersolar.com/"><span style="color:blue;">millersolar.com</span></a><br clear="none">805-438-5600</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903yqt8354517065" id="yiv4449929903yqt76737"><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Truitt<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 07, 2016 12:30 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Successor to SunEye 210?</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">I think the fact that no manufacturer has jumped in to fill the void left by the SunEye is an indicator that remote shade analysis tools like Aurora (my favorite) are the likely path forward for the industry. These tools can typically make it possible to generate a full rendering and shade analysis in less than 15 minutes for the experienced user, without ever having to get on a roof. NREL did some validation studies (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy16osti/65558.pdf">here's Aurora's</a>) and found a few tools to produce results as good or better than the SunEye, which makes sense to me since the analysis is based on an integral over the whole roof surface as opposed to a few point measurements. Of course the "garbage in, garbage out" principle is very applicable.</div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:#38761d;">For a brighter energy future,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Andrew Truitt </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:#38761d;">Principal<br clear="none">Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting, LLC</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:#38761d;"><a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">(202) 486-7507</a></span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewtruitt">LinkedIn Profile</a></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://truittreconsulting.weebly.com/">Company Website</a></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:#38761d;">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional ID: 032407-66</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color:#38761d;">Colorado Journeyman Electrician License No.: 600132</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><span style="color:#147dba;"><img id="yiv4449929903_x0000_i1025" src="cid:V7nenThe92IxdYuOz2cF" alt="24 copy.jpg" height="133" border="0" width="200"></span><br clear="none"><span style="color:#147dba;"><br clear="none"></span>"Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion to fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless!"<br clear="none"><br clear="none">~William McDonough</div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div></div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"> </div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Dan Fink <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:danbob88@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danbob88@gmail.com">danbob88@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">Hi Peter;</div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">My understanding is that the only thing left of Solmetric at Vivint is the PV Analyzer, and though they stated a year ago that they were going to "streamline" the PV sales process so that the site survey could be accomplished on the same day as the sale, I've seen nothing else from them.</div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">Very happy that I've kept the heavily-modded Solar Pathfinder that I bought in 1994, with a real tripod adaptor. </div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">For quicky site surveys and semi-interested customers, I use an Android smartphone app, which is pretty accurate IF you build a tripod adaptor for the phone.</div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">I'm surprised someone hasn't leapt in to claim this market share. Not all of us are big-city no-battery PV installers who can use the new Google tool that estimates tree heights. My class experiments with this were a bust....it only sorta kinda works. </div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">Ground truth is the only thing I trust. Maybe I should just start building and marketing my Pathfinder and smartphone tripod adaptors.</div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">Dan Fink</span></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">Adjunct Professor, Ecotech Institute</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">IREC Certified Instructor™ for: </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">~ PV Installation Professional</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">~ Small Wind Installer</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">Executive Director, Buckville Energy</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">NABCEP Accredited Continuing Education Providers™<br clear="none"><a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><span style="color:#1155cc;">970.672.4342</span></a></span></div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"><br clear="none"> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Peter Parrish <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>> wrote:</div></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Can’t seem to find a SunEye product on the Solmetric website. Is it tucked away on the Vivent site or somewhere else hard-to-find?</span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv4449929903MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Peter T. 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