<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yea its tough.  I’m trying to make sure I do it right ( whatever that is at this point) and what the customer wants.<div class="">I”ll check to see if this meets with his approval.  Might be the way to go. </div><div class="">Thanks for the update as to it being tight.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I”m guessing here, but I can hear him say “ yes but that rubber will compress over time, and then we’ll have the SS washer touching the rail”</div><div class="">vs</div><div class="">what everyone else is saying “ that the plastic will fail and then it’ll be SS on AL anyway.  </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1 step forward, 3 steps back.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">jay</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 28, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" class="">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    We just had that same concern, but once you torque the connection
    down there was no noticeable movement.  As someone else mentioned
    the plastics can be tough to hold up to UV, temperature,
    compression, and thermal cycling.  Once that hard plastic cracks and
    falls out, you definitely will have a loose connection.<br class="">
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CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
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      My hesitation to that is the compressibility of the neoprene. 
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      <div class="">One of the things I like about nylon or similar hard
        plastics is they don’t compress so you do get a ridged
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            <div class="">On Jan 28, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Ray Walters <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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                use a SS washer with integrated Neoprene rubber gasket. 
                We use them on roof work, and Unirac uses them under the
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                Thanks,<br class="">
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CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
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Solar Design Engineer
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/28/2016 8:25 AM, Jay
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                  <div class="">Hi Larry</div>
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                  <div class="">I wasn't planning on installing anything
                    between al and al. Just between SS and al. So the
                    module will still be bolted directly to the al rack
                    material. I'm not too worried about the grounding,
                    and certainly not worried enough to install lay in
                    lugs with copper to each module. </div>
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                  <div class="">As lones pointed out, there are parts
                    that would insulate the bolt. </div>
                  <div class="">But as the owner hasn't requested that,
                    not going to suggest it!</div>
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                  <div class="">I sure didn't plan on stirring the pot
                    like this. </div>
                  <div class="">Just really wanted some help on sourcing
                    the washers</div>
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                  <div class="">Thanks</div>
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                    Systems <<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:larry@starlightsolar.com">larry@starlightsolar.com</a>>

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                      Hey Jay,
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                      <div class="">I’m still trying to picture this and
                        had a thought: If you isolate the module from
                        the rack electrically with these washers, and
                        both are grounded, and the two grounds are not
                        at the same potential (different length ground
                        runs), you may be creating a path for high
                        voltage into the array in event of a near
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                      <div class="">Also, if the washer is between the
                        two metals, how will you isolate the bolt that
                        puts them together from not touching the sides
                        of the holes?  Perhaps you need to look into
                        non-conductive fasteners as well.</div>
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