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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>SolarEdge was definitely NOT purchased by SunPower.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>SunPower did, however, purchase SolarBridge out of Texas.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>marco<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Dorsett<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 18, 2016 5:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think Solar Edge was bought by SunPower last year so there must be the thought to make them compatible. And that SolarCity had chosen SE as their inverter for the Power Wall.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bill Dorsett<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Manhattan, KS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Mason<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 18, 2016 1:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The Sonnen offering is a rebadged and integrated Outback Radian with all those features. I believe it is 48V.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Peter Parrish <<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" target="_blank">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know a fair amount about Sonnen. I thought their main thrust was 480 V/3P & LiFePO4 batteries, and systems for peak demand clipping. Do they have a “residential” offering?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am looking at 240/120 V split phase. If I can TOU load shifting and battery back-up, that will do it for this customer. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>President, SolarGnosis</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1107 Fair Oaks Ave.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Suite 351</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>South Pasadena, CA 91030</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%28323%29%20839-6108" target="_blank">(323) 839-6108</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:petertor@pobox.com" target="_blank">petertor@pobox.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Fink<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Have you looked into SonnenBatterie? To which a number of Tesla execs have recently bailed out to work for?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As always with all these new hypey Lithium storage systems, their presentations had everything except the information that real Wrenches actually need. But I was able to glean the info that Sonnenbatterie works with existing 48VDC nominal equipment and input, and 120/240VAC inputs also. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Following all the info coming out, but i'd rather let someone else be the guinea pig. And, of course, big $$$$ per kWh of storage.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Dan Fink</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Adjunct Professor, Ecotech Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>IREC Certified Instructor™ for: </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>~ PV Installation Professional</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>~ Small Wind Installer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Executive Director, Buckville Energy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>NABCEP Accredited Continuing Education Providers™<br><a href="tel:970.672.4342" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>970.672.4342</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Peter Parrish <<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" target="_blank">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have a residential client who wants a grid tied PV system with battery backup. The client wants everything to be top of the line: Sunpower modules. Tesla Powerwall batteries. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Unfortunately, I have been spending time recently researching "smart energy storage" for commercial applications focusing on peak demand shaving. These are 480 V 3-phase systems with 30 kW inverters and 48+ kWh Lithium technology batteries. I think I am beginning to understand the performance trade-offs and how these systems can complement PV to reduce demand charges as well as usage charges.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My problem, is that I have not spent as much time researching the newer residential GTBB offerings. I have studied the Juicebox offering – Schneider XW5548 plus NMC Lithium batteries -- but that’s about it. I don’t know the default vendor for the NMC batteries and if not Powerwall, could Powerwall be a replacement? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Otherwise, does anyone know how to access the Powerwall offerings? Also has anyone had success getting a rebate in CA through the SGIP/AES program? I know to qualify for SGIP one needs to demonstrate load shifting as opposed to (or in addition to BB). </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There seems to be an offering from Solaredge (Storedge), but it is not clear their optimizers work with the 96 cell Sunpower X21-345, for example.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am convinced that smart storage will become more important over time, and I would like to use this customer to “get smart”, and prepare for future business of this sort.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Any practical knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I am happy to exchange information on commercial demand management offerings.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Peter T. 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