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    <tt><font size="+1">The inspector is missing one of the most often
        used exceptions for running dc conductors inside buildings.
        There are many presentations showing this method and many
        pictures also. </font></tt><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/4/2016 3:46 PM, Dana wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century
            Gothic","sans-serif";color:black">Our
            inspectors are OK with building entrance (before disconnect)
            as long as it is metal conduit <u>before </u>it enters the
            building envelope and is metal conduit all the way to the
            disconnect on the exterior.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century
              Gothic","sans-serif";color:black">Dana
              Orzel <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century
              Gothic","sans-serif";color:black">Great
              Solar Works, Inc -  NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century
              Gothic","sans-serif";color:black">E -
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a>  - Web - solarwork.com <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century
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              970.626.5253  C - 208.721.7003<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century
              Gothic","sans-serif";color:black">"Responsible
              Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  </span><span
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              consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                RE-wrenches
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Daniel Young<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 04, 2016 12:05 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Source Circuit
                Disconnect - 690.14 (C)(1)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You
            could show them the 2011 or 2014 NEC, both of which clarify
            this (rather than making a new rule), so the inspector might
            accept this rational. The numbers are a bit different now in
            the 2014 code (and there is an error in the referencing, the
            exception in 690.13 (A) points to 690.31 (F), where it’s
            actually in 690.31 (G)). But both 2011 and 2014 solve the
            circular reference issue with the 2008 code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
            2008, the code says (690.14 C 1) a disconnect needs to be at
            the point of penetration, unless it follows the rule (690.31
            E) where DC is installed in metallic conduit, and complies
            with the first rule (690.14) that requires the disconnect be
            at the point of penetration, unless it follows the rule
            (690.31 E)…… round and round we go. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Common
            sense would seem to acknowledge that the exception allows
            you to locate the disconnect elsewhere, but we have dealt
            with a few inspectors in the area that feel like they want a
            disconnect anyway. I think it was a simple fix in those
            cases, we submitted an objection (with code references) in
            writing, and just put a disconnect in to close the permit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With
            Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniel
            Young, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">NABCEP
            Certified PV Installation Professional<sup>TM</sup>: Cert
            #031508-90<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
              RE-wrenches [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Adams<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 04, 2016 10:59 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Source Circuit Disconnect -
              690.14 (C)(1)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Fellow
                      Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">We
                          recently failed an inspection on a new PV
                          installation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">We
                          are operating under the 2008 code<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">I
                          have attached a small sketch of our conduit
                          routing to clarify things.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Inspectors
                          note post inspection ...provide a photovoltaic
                          disconnecting means per 690.14 (C)(1) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">During
                          his inspection the inspector was unhappy that
                          we had entered the attic space with the DC
                          source circuits, saying we should have run the
                          conduit across the roof and kept it outside. 
                          Since we entered the building we would need to
                          add a DC disconnect in the attic to meet
                          code.  My thought is that we fall under the
                          exception listed (690.31(E)) since all source
                          circuit internal to the dwelling are in
                          metallic raceways.  I'd like to hear other
                          wrenches chime in on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Our
                          reason for routing things as we did was to
                          keep the installation aesthetics first class
                          and minimize unsightly conduit runs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Code
                          section follows<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">690.14
                          Additional Provisions. Photovoltaic
                          disconnecting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">means
                          shall comply with 690.14(A) through
                          (D).690.14 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">(C)
                          Requirements for Disconnecting Means. Means<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">shall
                          be provided to disconnect all conductors in a
                          building<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">or
                          other structure from the photovoltaic system
                          conductors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">(1)
                          Location. The photovoltaic disconnecting means
                          shall<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">be
                          installed at a readily accessible location
                          either on the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">outside
                          of a building or structure or inside nearest
                          the point<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">of
                          entrance of the system conductors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Exception:
                          Installations that comply with 690.31(E) shall<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">be
                          permitted to have the disconnecting means
                          located remote<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">from
                          the point of entry of the system conductors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">The
                          photovoltaic system disconnecting means shall
                          not<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">be
                          installed in bathrooms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> 690.31
                          (E) reads as follows<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">(E) Direct-Current
                            Photovoltaic Source and Output<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">Circuits Inside a
                            Building. Where direct-current photovoltaic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">source or output
                            circuits of a utility-interactive inverter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">from a
                            building-integrated or other photovoltaic
                            system are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">run inside a
                            building or structure, they shall be
                            contained in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">metal raceways, or
                            metal enclosures, from the point of
                            penetration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">of the surface of
                            the building or structure to the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:9.5pt">first readily
                            accessible disconnecting means. The
                            disconnecting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size:9.5pt">Carl Adams,
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