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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ve used Pro Solar Rail in a similar way, it has a flat bottom and you can place it directly on the roof with butyl tape under the whole length, then fasten as often as you determine is needed. Rails run from peak to eave, and modules go in landscape. We mount the rails as close to the peak as practical, as it reduces the amount of water that can get to the rail from above, after that, it’s a continuous Butyl strip compressed by the rail, and the water would have to get in from the sides. You don’t splice rails either, just set the next rail ¼-1/2” down roof to allow for thermal expansion. No leaks so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Daniel Young, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<sup>TM</sup>: Cert #031508-90<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lead Systems Designer for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=148 height=90 id="Picture_x0020_11" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D138DD.AABA50C0" alt="Dovetail 2013 cmyk 300dpi.jpg"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><a href="http://www.dovetailsolar.com"><span style='color:#00B050'>www.dovetailsolar.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ph: 740-274-0139</span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We’ve completed nearly 400 renewable energy projects! 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Unauthorized interception of this email is a violation of criminal laws and laws covering electronic communications privacy matters. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Mason<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> dana@solarwork.com; RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] SIPS panel roofs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have no experience with SIP but,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>There's a product I buy from Krannich that is excellent for difficult roofs where there is no point of attachment. It is called Xpress rail. The older product, which I don't think they sell anymore but I bought out everything they had, could be attached by pop rivet or self drilling metal screws. You drilled a hole every six or twelve inches and riveted it right onto metal roof sheeting. You back it with double sided EPDM tape. It is amazingly strong and probably as well attached as the roof itself.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.everest-solarsystems.com/fileadmin/k2systems/PDF/public/Produktblatter/USA/XPressRail_US3_0813.pdf">http://www.everest-solarsystems.com/fileadmin/k2systems/PDF/public/Produktblatter/USA/XPressRail_US3_0813.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Dana <<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank">dana@solarwork.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>SIP ROOF INSTALLATION</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>I was asked to install on a SIP panel roof today. 5/8” OSB over 6” of foam on a 9:12 roof pitch at 9800’ elevation with a Pro panel metal roof skin. There is a finished ceiling underneath the lower side of the SIP roof panel. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>I explained that it was not ideal due to the lack of good attachment etc. They were not concerned and said “you’ll make it work!”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>I have done SIP panels in new construction and we could install backing from underneath and refoam.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>My first thought was to do 2-2.5 times the normal L feet.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>One thought was to use expanding moly-bolts.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Has anyone have experience attaching to SIP roof that was not prepared for an array? 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