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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You could look at the S-5 Versa Bracket. <a href="http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_71.cfm">http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_71.cfm</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>They have 2 types, with the ability of having 3 fasteners each, with a pre-applied butyl strip. These are basically a smaller version of the DPW easyfoot. They have load test data for ½” OSB (since you have 5/8” OSB you should get better pullouts, though you likely can’t assume that for permits).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have not used this on SIPS (no SIPs jobs so far for us, at least not post construction with a vaulted ceiling). But it might be worth looking into.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The 9/12 slope does help reduce risks with leaks as well, the steeper the roof, the easier it generally is to keep leak free. Hopefully they used a good underlayment between the metal and the SIPs, if it was a fully adheared, self-healing membrane like Grace Ice/water shield, that’s just one more layer of insurance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You should also ask the client what they did with the SIP install to eliminate air leaks through the seams between SIPs, they’re notorious for being less than air tight at the seams, and the warm-moist inside air leaking through leads to condensation and then to rot, especially along the ridge, following the seams between panels. <a href="http://buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-036-complex-three-dimensional-air-flow-networks">http://buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-036-complex-three-dimensional-air-flow-networks</a> . (You don’t want calls later in life about roof rot, and have the finger pointed a you because you were the one drilling into the roof.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>With Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Daniel Young, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<sup>TM</sup>: Cert #031508-90<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will White<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] SIPS panel roofs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We’ve also used the ECO-65 which works great but the problem with your roof will be flashing. The roofs we installed on were asphalt so we could use the flashing. It’s going to be hard to seal a ECO-65 plate on a metal roof.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:4.5pt'><tr><td width=1309 valign=top style='width:981.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Will White</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Director of Construction – East Coast <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'>RGS Energy</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width=1309 valign=top style='width:981.75pt;padding:5.25pt 0in 3.0pt 0in'></td></tr><tr><td width=1309 valign=top style='width:981.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'>64 Main St. </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#B9B9B9'>|</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Montpelier, VT 05602<br>tel 802.223.7804 </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#B9B9B9'>|</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'> mobile 802.234.3167 </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#B9B9B9'>|</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999'> fax 802.223.8980</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width=1309 valign=top style='width:981.75pt;padding:3.75pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#FCB033'><a href="http://www.rgsenergy.com/"><span style='color:#FCB033;text-decoration:none'>RGSEnergy.com</span></a> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#FCB033'>| <a href="mailto:william.white@rgsenergy.com"><span style='color:#FCB033;text-decoration:none'>william.white@rgsenergy.com</span></a> </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width=1309 valign=top style='width:981.75pt;padding:6.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#8A8A8A'>Confidentiality Note: </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#8A8A8A'>This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). 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Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Luke Christy<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] SIPS panel roofs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Dana,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>We had to do this very thing for a project some years ago. I searched extensively for a product that could allow us to attach directly to the top skin of a SIP panel without having to use blocking or through fasteners. We ended up using an attachment made by EcoFasten Solar. It uses a steel plate with a number of screws (8, I think) that collectively create the required pullout resistance. They had engineering to support using the product on SIPs, which was awesome. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>A quick look at their website shows that they still make a SIP-specific attachment. Their flashing isn't ideal for Pro-panel, but I would think that you could make it work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>-Luke<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 16, 2015, at 16:45, Dana <<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>SIP ROOF INSTALLATION</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>I was asked to install on a SIP panel roof today. 5/8” OSB over 6” of foam on a 9:12 roof pitch at 9800’ elevation with a Pro panel metal roof skin. There is a finished ceiling underneath the lower side of the SIP roof panel. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>I explained that it was not ideal due to the lack of good attachment etc. They were not concerned and said “you’ll make it work!”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>I have done SIP panels in new construction and we could install backing from underneath and refoam.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>My first thought was to do 2-2.5 times the normal L feet.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>One thought was to use expanding moly-bolts.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Has anyone have experience attaching to SIP roof that was not prepared for an array? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Dana Orzel </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>E - <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a> - Web - <a href="http://solarwork.com">solarwork.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>O - 970.626.5253 C - 208.721.7003</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2015.0.6176 / Virus Database: 4483/11190 - Release Date: 12/16/15<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>