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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Dan:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Discovered the same exact problem in a bank of 2 Trojan L-16s. Conventional wisdom is that you don’t want to replace batteries in a bank more than one year old. I am going to replace the one battery anyway and see how it plays out. I won’t know the results for 6 months to a year. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">William</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><img width="64" height="28" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D12508.1D247670" alt="Gradient Cap_mini"><br>Lic 773985<br><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/"><span style="color:blue">millersolar.com</span></a><br>805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Fink<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 22, 2015 6:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Esteemed Wrenches;</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm looking for input on what could be going on with a battery bank at the college I teach for. It's a stand-alone system with 4 Trojan 12v T-1275 in series / parallel for 24v, 660w of PV, running only a drainback solar hot water system for space heating. So, 3 pumps and 3 DTCs, max load 100 watts and doesn't run all that often, outback CC is usually in float. The batteries are only 2.5 years old and are regularly maintained.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My lab class tested and maintained the battery bank last week, and on one battery there was one cell, in the middle of the battery, with a SG so low it wouldn't even register on our refractometer or midnite hydrometer. That battery reads about 0.2v lower than the others. All the other cells in that battery read reasonable SG, with 2 cells on the downstream side reading SG slightly low, but still in reasonable range. This was of course all before topping up the electrolyte with distilled water.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Our troubleshooting exercise looked at:</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">~ Measurement error? Nope, I was right there supervising and 2 different lab classes got the same results with 2 different instruments;</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">~ Stratification? A suspicion especially since the system is usually in float. We equalized twice, no change in SG. I DID hear that likely this was the first time the batteries had ever been equalized, but no way to know for sure.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">~ Spilled electrolyte from tipped battery replaced with water by a previous instructor's class? Can't see this, all the other cells would have lost electrolyte too;</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">~ A student accidentally discharged electrolyte into the bucket instead of back in the cell, then was replaced by distilled water when topping up? I can't see that either, the midnite hydrometer needs only a small sample.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So, I'm left with "likely we have a cell that is failing for some reason" and students secretly smug that the professor is also stumped.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Any ideas?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Dan Fink</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Adjunct Professor, Ecotech Institute</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">IREC Certified Instructor™ for: </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">~ PV Installation Professional</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">~ Small Wind Installer</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Executive Director, Buckville Energy</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">NABCEP Accredited Continuing Education Providers™<br><a href="tel:970.672.4342" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">970.672.4342</span></a></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br> </p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>