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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dana</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Wow, could not have said it better. Preppers
are notoriously cheap, think they know it all and can power their homes / lives
with a few panels and batteries. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>peter</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dana@solarwork.com href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">Dana</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 26, 2015 11:25
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Preppers - Fears
sells perspective</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Hey
All (esp. you all newer to the solar field & not well versed in
battery systems – <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">‘Been
quietly sitting this last discussion out on equipment on battery backup &
Peppers’.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I
know there are a lot of designer/installer getting into batteries for the
first time and a lot of their experience is based in the grid intertie start
in the solar field.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I
have the overall experience (since ’88) that managing the expectations of what
a battery based system will and will not do. The obvious are electric stoves,
heat, & water devices and let’s add electric cars to that list now too.
That said, battery system design is completely another field from the grid tie
market. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Whether
the Sh#$%^t hits the fan or not doing your job with integrity and thoroughness
is critical. Life goes on and in a few years they are going to sitting there
with a pile of equipment that if it was not correctly sized could affect your
reputation which will still be on the line, and believe me you will hear from
these folks. This ain’t the hook it up & walk away market, they will
require more care that you are used to applying to a GT client.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I
have to stress that doing the numbers and a <U>really accurate load
evaluation, </U>looking at short and long term expectations, & best case /
worst case scenarios is a really safe place to start. If you cannot <U>verify
your design with good math</U> and meet their requests <U>do not go there</U>.
If they cannot afford their evaluation DONOT cheap it down, Walk away - Fear
sells and some of these folks are running so deep in fear it is almost a
comedy if it were not so sad. You need to look beyond the short term profit
and look at your reputation down the road.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Another
item – These folks take a lot of your energy in all their “what if” scenarios.
Have them list (in writing & keep this in their file) what is critical to
them. They tend to change their minds as they peruse the internet & talk
with the like minded crew. If they shift have them put their change in request
in writing again. What you started out designing may turn 180° in a night. Get
equipment paid for in advance period. Be careful with credit card purchases on
big systems, I know of folks that are counting on the credit card system
crashing and are racking up huge purchase counting on the crash. I had someone
offer half price on a system in Gold bars as “it is going to more than triple”
right, I am not going there personally.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I
have visited with folks now long gone that their parents were getting ready
for the same end of society stuff 50-60 years ago & then there were the
atomic fallout shelters, & then Y2K. I got offered an entire 18 wheeler of
freeze dried food after Y2K. My body shudders to think what that would do to
your digestive track.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Been
there & done that – I spent “88 to “95 of my solar career doing just this.
It takes a lot out of you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Best
to you all In joy & Keep on putting the sun to work.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dana
Orzel <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Great
Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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