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Hi Allan and Jay,<br><br>
I second the golf cart battery option. Trojan T-105s seem to be the most
bang for the buck. An 800 W array wouldn't stir up the electrolyte
sufficiently in an L-16. Maybe the backup generator would. What all is
she running?<br><br>
Drake <br><br>
<br><br>
At 06:40 PM 10/22/2015, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Allan,<br><br>
A few questions.<br><br>
how little energy? amp hrs night/avg.<br>
and<br>
is mx something this person does or would like to do without?<br><br>
But given what you’ve said, I wouldn’t go with wet cell industrial as
you’ll never get the C rate you need. If the 8 x L-16’s have
done her well ( and probably the battery box is set up for that form
factor) and with your budget I’d go with another set of L-16’s
flooded or sealed if the budget/want allows. <br><br>
And if the need is really quite small, I”d consider golf cart. Yea
yea,I hear all the laughs, but where I live, golf carts seem to have the
life they always have, but L-16’s ( all brands) seem to have a shorter
and shorter life for reasons I don’t understand. <br><br>
<br>
jay<br><br>
peltz power<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:19 AM,
Allan Sindelar
<<a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>
> wrote:<br><br>
I have a related question, please. One of my longtime off grid clients is
a single woman who maintains a nonprofit sanctuary for about 30 rescue
dogs, both adoptable and not adoptable (curious?
<a href="http://www.bridgingtheworlds.org/">www.bridgingtheworlds.org</a>
). With that many animals, Beverly seldom leaves her remote land and her
support and sustenance comes primarily from donations. Her existing
system is a 18-year-old SW4024/Solar Boost SB50, with 800W of old array
and eight L16s. <br><br>
The L16s were takeouts from another job that I figured had some life left
(used for two years in another contractor's Sunny Island GTBB system
without telling the customer that he needed to add water regularly). I
gave them to her at no cost and they lasted three years but are now dying
fast.<br><br>
At my suggestion she has been running a GoFundMe campaign that has raised
$2900. I have already told her that I'll do the swapout at no charge. I
told her that the choice of her next set of batteries would depend on the
money she raised: we have another 24V set of 820A/hr Rolls that I think
has some life left, or we can afford 8 L16s, or with the most generous
donation total I'll order a set of HUPs and they'll last her the rest of
her life (or maybe not - she's healthy, beautiful and independent at 71
years). <br><br>
So, my question: At $3,000 and 24V, what would you sell her? This is
bound to bring varied opinions, but I want to look beyond what I would
select based on price and get other Wrenches' suggestions. I'll add that
while the array is small and old, she lives well on very little energy,
and has a TriMetric and a backup generator. <br><br>
Thank you for your opinions.<br>
Allan<br><br>
<b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
<a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a><br>
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>
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New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
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<b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br><br>
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On 10/22/2015 11:50 AM,
<a href="mailto:penobscotsolar@midmaine.com">
penobscotsolar@midmaine.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre>As with Tump, we have been using the KS series for over 20 years
with
little issue. My own particular caveat is that we have now started to
use
Crown as well and are finding them as rugged, easier to move (metal
cases
with handles), with built in water miser caps, and a better warranty,
and
with great success. I also echo Tumps sentiments with Roy at RAE. We
have
been buying from him since our inception in 1988.
Daryl
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<pre>The 5000 series are what we always recommend and install for my off
grid
clients. 2 volt cells are the only way we go. Despite what folks
believe,
we find it easier to handle the KS series then the L16.
We have been using them for many years and as with ANY manu, they have
and
had issues BUT...... we feel w/ proper system sizing, education of the
client & record keeping we have yet to have an issue w/ warrantee
claims.
That being said we have had a long relationship W/Jamie Surrette and his
supplier, Roy Early and his crew at RAE Battery, one of the best
suppliers in our 27+ years.
On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
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<pre>Hi Wrenches,
Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries? Happy with them? Worth
the
extra $$$?
Thanks for the feedback,
Kris
--
Shine On!
Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
<a href="http://www.legacysolar.com/">www.legacysolar.com</a>
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
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BSEE
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