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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>August:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know conduit and boxes seem way too hard for the new generation of plug-and-play installers. Because of this we’ve seen a trend to cheapen how we run DC circuits. We can’t let this dissuade us from doing our jobs safely and correctly. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If this question were asked about any other kind of power circuit, Journeymen and women would shake their heads wondering why the fuss about a little bit of EMT work. Power circuits, DC or AC, deserve to be protected in conduit, cable tray or other approved methods, and those methods have long been established. I don’t imagine you could install rooftop air conditioner feeders by cable-tying them along strut or conduit. Why is it that PV installers figure this is OK for 600 volt DC circuits?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think it is bad enough that high voltage DC circuits are allowed to be unprotected under arrays, but once the circuit leaves the perimeter of the array there is no excuse to leave the conductors vulnerable to damage and to hurt people.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The problem is that, although you are ethical enough to weigh the long term implications of various solutions, many installers and inspectors are not. Many then get away with or approve of tying high voltage cables to whatever is handy. You and I cannot therefore do a safe job and provide bids that are competitive in price.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry if I appear to have a strong opinion on this subject, but poor electrical practices do kill people, and I take that seriously.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>William Miller<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><img width=64 height=28 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D0D44C.CCCFD540" alt="Gradient Cap_mini"></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Lic 773985<br><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/">millersolar.com</a><br>805-438-5600<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>August Goers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] wiring methods between arrays<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have another best practices questions: what are you doing to run your PV wire between arrays on a rooftops? This question has come up on this list in the past but I’m still on the hunt for a robust and faster lower cost method. We mostly install outdoor boxes on each sub array and then run EMT between these boxes. We use strain reliefs to enter the boxes and then either keep PV wire or transition to THWN-2 in the EMT depending on the layout. This method takes time and the outdoor boxes aren’t cheap. Alternatively, we can run open-ended EMT with ground bushings on the ends to bond the conduit. Since ground bushings are designed to be used in boxes we switch out the aluminum lug with a tin-coated outdoor rated lug and stainless hardware. This technically violates the listing but at least the materials hold up. The EMT needs to be carefully bent down at the ends so rain doesn’t enter. Lastly, we sometimes run our PV wires along strut or angle aluminum (this is the fastest method) which also needs to be bonded with a lay-in lug. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone have other methods?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>August<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Luminalt<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>