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    Hi William;<br>
    <br>
    I agree with the overlapping roof elements concept, as I mentioned
    in my previous post.  However in many cases, (metal roofs for
    instance) the flashing can not be overlapped as you described, and
    is sealed with adhesive.  It is still called a flashing, and is
    still acceptable to roofers.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/2015 12:19 PM, William Miller
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ray:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            have to respectfully disagree with your semantics.  A
            flashing is an overlapping of roofing materials such that
            gravity will direct rain and melt water off of the roof. 
            This is a universally accepted waterproofing method that
            does not depend on any sealant material.  The concept is as
            ancient as the first, crude, thatched roof.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
            you place a flat object on top of roofing without an uphill
            material lapping over the downhill object, you are not
            flashing.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What
            you have described is sealant-dependent weatherproofing. 
            Regardless of the quality of the sealant, or lack thereof, I
            don’t think you can call it a flashed attachment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(The
            overarching point is a flashed attachment does not depend on
            a sealant.  Any sealant has a finite lifespan.  Removing the
            sealant variable from the equation results in more lasting
            installation.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">William
            Miller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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                RE-wrenches
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Ray Walters<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 07, 2015 10:34 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] to flash or not to
                flash<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">My opinion is that if the L foot has enough
          surface area it constitutes a flashing, and that large
          flashings can actually cause more damage to the roof than they
          prevent.<br>
          I also agree that an attachement doesn't constitute a
          penetration.  I just finished an install on a metal roof with
          hundreds of screw holes.  We added a few more screw holes, and
          ours have 20 times the sealant surface area.  We did run a 1"
          conduit through the roof, and since it was an actual
          penetration, we used a very expensive flexible boot flashing.<br>
          Personally, I think we need about a 3"x3" or 4" x 4" L foot
          with a double stick butyl tape on the bottom, and all will be
          well.<br>
          I realize that the OP was referring to asphalt, but I will
          flash other roof types that don't do well with L feet ( like
          shake).<br>
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          <o:p></o:p></p>
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