<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Silicone is not a roof mastic and it does react to Alu despite your record w/ your historic installation methods. We and our industry are now in the 21st century with 21 century requirements and many hi quality roof mastic sealants. The way I figure it is that I am a professional solar installer, I am not a roofer nor a sealant engineer but they have provided our industry with requirements and products to ensure my clients receive hi level of quality installations despite the costs. <div><div><div><div>On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">This started as an asphalt shingle attachment discussion, so it's important to note that many of the sealants from Sika are NOT compatible with asphaltic/bitumunous surfaces. Many competitors are still using products from this company that are specifically noted by the manufacturer as not compatible with the materials being sealed. Make sure your sealant is compatible with the roof!<div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:34 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jarmo.Venalainen@schneider-electric.com" target="_blank">Jarmo.Venalainen@schneider-electric.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Hi:</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">People may already know about this,
but I thought I would pass it on in case some dont.</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">We do a lot of work with the boating
and RV industry in the US and overseas.</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">One sealant name which has come up a
lot with strong positive reviews regarding age related drying/shrinking
not only in the US but overseas as well is SIKA.</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Here's a link to their website,</font>
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<br><a href="http://usa.sika.com/" target="_blank"><font size="2" color="blue" face="sans-serif">http://usa.sika.com/</font></a>
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<td><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject:</font>
</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [RE-wrenches] to flash or not to
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<br><tt><font size="2">Daniel,<br>
<br>
My answer is to flash until others prove me wrong.<br>
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I am in the same position you are, speaking to the same manufacturers you<br>
are, and probably dealing with the same low competitor pricing you are.
<br>
These products sure sound tempting.<br>
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Over the past decade I have probably removed a dozen 80's era hot air or<br>
hot water systems that were directly attached to roofs (installed by<br>
others). In every instance the roof was a complete mess and required
deck<br>
replacement. I now tell homeowners just to contact a roofer and have
them<br>
dispose of the collectors in the process of re-roofing - we will come out<br>
after the new roof is in place.<br>
<br>
I think you summed up the sealant problem quite well. I sell my systems<br>
as a 25 year product. I am not satisfied that butyl is a 25 year
answer. <br>
Until someone convinces me otherwise, I will relate as much to my<br>
customers and proceed with proper flashings.<br>
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Good poll.<br>
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Matt<br>
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Matthew Partymiller<br>
Solar Energy Solutions LLC<br>
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<a href="mailto:matt@solar-energy-solutions.com" target="_blank">matt@solar-energy-solutions.com</a><br>
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On Thu, August 6, 2015 12:47 pm, Daniel Young wrote:<br>
> Writing the subject above, it seems like I've heard this question
on the<br>
> wrench list before, but I could not find it in my old email archives.
Feel<br>
> free to pint me back to the old discussion if it's there.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I've been using a flashing based roof attachment for 8+yrs now (quick<br>
> mount or similar). Now we are looking at Rail-less systems (quick
rack is<br>
> a good example). There is also a non-flashed rail-less racking from<br>
> roof-tech </font></tt><a href="http://roof-tech.us/" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://roof-tech.us/</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">
. I've always been of the opinion that<br>
> simply crushing some sealant/gasket onto an asphalt shingle work fine
at<br>
> first (the test data from roof-tech is impressive), but would be an
issue<br>
> 10+yrs down the<br>
> road (thermal expansion movement, freeze/thaw, etc). I can make a
good<br>
> waterproof seal at first by just slathering some butyl/silicone to
an<br>
> L-foot<br>
> and cranking it down on the shingles, but that practice really disappeared<br>
> 8+yrs ago.<br>
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><br>
> Maybe consider this a Poll: (to flash, or not to flash)<br>
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> With Regards,<br>
><br>
><br>
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> Daniel Young,<br>
><br>
><br>
> NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90<br>
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