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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>The unit I clamped was a ground sourced heat pump.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Dana Orzel <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>E - dana@solarwork.com - Web - solarwork.com <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>O - 970.626.5253 C - 208.721.7003<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Loesch<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Water Heater Heat Pumps<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>Friends,<br><br>Are we confusing two distinct technologies? <br><br>Water Heater Heat Pumps are <u>not</u> Water Source Heat Pumps.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Bill Loesch<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>314 631 1094<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 26-May-15 11:35 AM, William Dorsett wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Dan was this a mini-split? The one's I've installed (typically not for 1800sqft house) spec AWG 14 or 12 so the full power draw on these can't be anywhere near that. In fact, there are two or three which are PV direct i.e.:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-air-conditioner/HotSpot-ACDC12b.pdf">http://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-air-conditioner/HotSpot-ACDC12b.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>which looks rebranded but with a SEER of 35, it's certainly worth a look. Gree also has one for which I don't have the tech sheet. The highest AC brand that I know of is Fujitsu and the SEER on it is ~26.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Bill Dorsett<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Manhattan, KS<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dana<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:54 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: 'RE-wrenches'<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Water Heater Heat Pumps<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>What kind of power draw do you see on this unit? & what kind of duty cycle do you see for 2 people or 4 people?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I amp clamped a 1800 sqft house heat pump for DHW & house heat in full power and measured 4338 watts & have a rough time recommending heat pumps for off grid.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Dana Orzel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136 E - <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a> - Web - solarwork.com O - 970.626.5253 C - 208.721.7003 "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>P Please consider the environment before printing this email.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of Tom Lane<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 3:59 PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Water Heater Heat Pumps<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Water heater heat pumps make excellent sense in a garage in HOT HUMID SOUTHERN CLIMATES and about 700 square feet of garage space is necessary AND you must run a condensate line like an air conditioner . DO NOT PUT THEM IN CLOSETS AND OR SMALL LAUNDRY ROOMS UNLESS YOU CAN VENT 700 square feet of unconditioned air space to them . They are noisy , but a garage in a humid hot southern climate is a good choice and with a time clock set for 11:00 AM to 4: 00 PM when the air in the garage is hot AND solar grid tied system is operating is a great strategy . 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