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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>If you call up a chemical resistant chart the options are not huge PVC is good that’s why battery vents are PVC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>On the EDPM: you fold & only cut up high! I was thinking on this and you could lay the EDPM down folded up & tacked on the back & sides and then lay down a sheet of plywood to “protect” the EDPM from getting damaged as you move your battery bank into place, then pull the front EDPM up, attach the front panel and secure the EDPM to the upper inside front panel. It’s like origami or making an envelope out of a flat sheet of paper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Dana Orzel</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Great Solar Works, Inc - <b>NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></b></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>E</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> - dana@solarwork.com - <b>Web</b> - solarwork.com <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>O</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> - 970.626.5253 <b>C </b>- 208.721.7003 - No FAX Line<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>frenergy<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2015 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Acid containment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kirpal, Allen, Dana, Benn<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Yes, I'm curious about sealing laps, joints, corners, etc also. I've seen the PVC shower pan material...we'll see if its wide enough for our application, I always banked on about 3" up the side of a battery box would hold many gallons of acid. Benn, I did a search on this in the Wrench archives and someone mentioned the spray liner would soften (and then fail?) over time when exposed to acid.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:benn@skyfireenergy.com" title="benn@skyfireenergy.com">Benn Kilburn</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, March 30, 2015 9:48 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [RE-wrenches] Acid containment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Allan,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>How would you deal with a seam that happens to lay within the containment area? Do you seal/adhere it somehow? With what? Or do you find that you can get the liner sheets large enough that you just 'stuff it in' (for lack of a better term), and then in the corners do you just double it over to make a tight fit? Or make cuts in the corners...?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Benn Kilburn<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>SkyFire Energy Inc. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>780-906-7807<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Allan Sindelar <<a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bill,<br>We have lined plywood boxes with either EPDM roofing membrane or vinyl pond liner, depending on local availability, and both have worked well. Being a flexible sheet, it is folded up the sides and stapled above the containment zone.<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com"><u>allan@sindelarsolar.com</u></a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.<br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br><!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--><br><!--[endif]--></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>On 3/30/2015 10:03 AM, frenergy wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:windowtext'>Fellow Wrenches, <br><br> I just called Tap Plastics hoping they would solve my problem of battery acid containment within a plywood battery box. I was surprised by their response that the acrylic was not impervious to acid and polyethylene would not work because sealants nor caulking adhere to it properly. They did not have anything that would work. <br><br> I've used those individual battery boxes from an auto parts store (~$12/each) but they take up more space than just the batteries. Has anyone ever used ice dam underpayment, like Grace? 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