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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tump, Allan, Bill & Jay;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good advice as always. I spoke with homeowner this morning and he says that it has been the control boards on the Frigidaire's that have failed on the SW4048. He did get advice a couple of yrs ago to add a capacitor and that did not help. Inverter is not having any other problems that he knows of, as of yet. He will decide between changing the inverter or changing his washer & dryer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dave <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tump<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 27, 2015 5:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Xantrex SW 4048 inverter and Frigidaire<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As for the older SWs we installed the cap on the output side, that being said I have seen GFIC outlets causing problems but I have not seen these issues w/ my SMA SI. Sounds to me that; being the professional you are, suggesting the replacement of the older SW with something that may be less frustrating ( new inverters and their firm ware upgrades, less frustrating yeah right!?) better performance and eliminating costly washer repairs. If I were to try and rectify the issue, then I will usual start w/ the removal of the gfic, cap on the ac output, (we would just installed it on the questionable load's circuit,0 OR offer a credit for the old SW and try to sell them the SMA SI 6K inverter and then work your way down to their budget.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 27, 2015, at 12:30 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'>Dave,<br>This was a Wrenches discussion topic, somewhere between 2001 and 2005.There was a fundamental incompatibility between the SW series and the electronics of certain new model washers. The early Maytag Neptunes and front-loading, electronically-controlled Frigidaires had issues with the mod-sine waveform of the SW series. I looked in my archives but have nothing saved about that. You might find the original thread in the online archives. If the "expensive controls" include control boards or related, this could be an ongoing issue with this combination.<br><br>We only had one experience with the issue, and it doesn't offer a useful solution. A Y2K installation with dual SW55548s wouldn't run a Frigidaire front-load washer. Adding a large power capacitor across the input (per Wrenches and possibly Xantrex tech support advice) didn't solve it; switching the washer circuit to the other inverter did. We never did figure that one out.<br><br>Just yesterday there was a thread here on "charging multiple battery banks" dual systems, 24 and 48V, sharing a switched array. The 24V was a SW4024. Many of us still care for systems based on that series, and have good respect for it, but as they get older and support gets tougher, the energy seems to be shifting toward replacement.<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.<br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:windowtext'>On 3/26/2015 8:29 PM, frenergy wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'> Do you know what it is that's failing?...electronics or motor? Is it the same in both? Have these failures been happening since the 4048 was fired up or more recently? Is there a lot of generator run time?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Bill <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Feather River Solar Electric<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:dave@independentpowerllc.com" title="dave@independentpowerllc.com">Dave</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:24 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Re: [RE-wrenches] Xantrex SW 4048 inverter and Frigidaire<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Older off grid system having trouble with Frigidaire washer and dryer needing expensive repairs every year or so when run on a Xantrex SW 4048/S inverter manufactured in June 2005.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Not one of my installs so I don't know the particulars.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Homeowners are looking for advice on what would work better with this ten year old SW. Or, should they invest in a new inverter? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Dave<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>David Palumbo <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Independent Power LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>462 Solar Way Drive<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>Hyde Park, VT 05655<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>802-888-7194<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span 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