<p dir="ltr">Phil<br>
Please confirm i have built lots of ps2 and 4 seams to always have 25's on the x240 not 20's<br>
Jerry</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 18, 2015 10:04 AM, "Phil Undercuffler" <<a href="mailto:solarphil@gmail.com">solarphil@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The PSX-240 (independent unit in enclosure) has active cooling, so it has a higher capacity and therefore the 25A breaker.  The X-240 (bare xformer) should have a 20A.  The good news is, in OutBack Stacking the xformer is balancing the phases, which since there are inverters on both phases means that it typically is only processing 1-2kW or so, usually much less.  </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Phil</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Allan Sindelar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Kevin and Matt,<br>
    Good advice from Matt. Just one detail: On the Outback PSX-240 (the
    independent unit with enclosure) the output breakers are 25A, not
    20A. I suspect that the 2P<br>
    breaker for the X-240 would be the same. As the unit often operates
    at close to its capacity, this could make a difference.<span><br>
    Allan<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
          <span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a></span><br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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    </span><div><div><div>On 3/17/2015 2:56 PM, Kevin Pegg wrote:<br>
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      <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Thanks, Matt for the details here. </font></span></div>
      <div><span></span> </div>
      <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I will be heading out to the site in
            the next little while and will report back what was found. </font></span></div>
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      <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Kevin</font></span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br>
            <b>From:</b> RE-wrenches
            [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Matt James<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> March 17, 2015 12:22 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback quad stack X240
            breaker tripping<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Kevin,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Not sure
              what happened on the dropped communication, but I had
              responded to you last week with some possible answers and
              things to check.  I think I made the mistake of replying
              directly to your email address and not sending to the
              entire Re-Wrenches forum, sorry for that as I know this is
              information that could be helpful to others as well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">In any case,
              Tump is right -- on an existing system where everything
              has been working fine for some time but now isn’t, the key
              is to isolate, isolate, isolate.  Turn off all AC input,
              output and transformer breakers, then wake up each
              inverter by increasing the Power Save Level Master Adjust
              one step at a time.  Confirm proper AC voltage line to
              neutral at the inverter’s AC output terminals  – all
              breakers are still open.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Close the
              breaker to the X240 balancing transformer, then close the
              AC output breakers of one inverter at a time, starting
              with the Master.  Confirm that all inverters are on and
              have proper voltage and phasing by verifying proper AC
              voltage line to neutral, line to line as measured at the
              AC output terminals and to the output bus bars  – all
              inverters should show 120 L-N, and any inverters
              programmed as L1 Slaves should show 0v L-L to the Master
              and 240v L-L to L2 Slaves.  L2 slaves <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">This
              establishes a baseline to ensure that all the power
              electronics, magnetics, wiring and programming are working
              properly.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Next, start
              the generator and close all the input breakers.  Measure
              AC voltage at the inverter’s input terminals, confirm that
              each is seeing the proper voltage and phasing.  Verify
              that the inverters sync to and connect to the generator,
              and begin to charge.  Measure the AC current on both
              phases of the generator, and verify that they are
              balanced.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Some
              potential issues are:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">1.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:7pt;COLOR:#1f497d">       </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Bad X240 breaker.  Take a spare,
              20A 2 pole DIN.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">2.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:7pt;COLOR:#1f497d">       </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Transformer insulation damaged,
              typically by overheating.  Rather unlikely, but possible.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">3.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:7pt;COLOR:#1f497d">       </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Failed or mis-wired or
              mis-programmed inverter, likely on L2.  Due to the
              distance to the site, consider taking a replacement board
              set with you.  Alternately, the system can operate on both
              legs with the other inverters, even if it’s an uneven
              number, through OutBack Stacking until you can schedule
              another trip.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">4.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:7pt;COLOR:#1f497d">       </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Heavily imbalanced load or
              generator.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">If the
              charging currents on the generator are imbalanced, one
              possible solution is to disconnect the neutral from the
              generator at the power system end.  This presents a pure
              240v load to the genset, which will force the currents to
              be balanced on both phases.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Feel free to
              contact me directly if you have any problems or questions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Best
              Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Matt James<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Applications
                Engineering Manager<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">OutBack
                Power Technologies Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Direct: 
                <a href="tel:%28360%29%20618-4364" value="+13606184364" target="_blank">(360) 618-4364</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Cell: 
                <a href="tel:%28360%29%20618-2869" value="+13606182869" target="_blank">(360) 618-2869</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> RE-wrenches
                  [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                    Behalf Of </b>Kevin Pegg<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 16, 2015 10:51 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback quad stack
                  X240 breaker tripping<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:blue;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">Thanks for
                everyone's advise on this one. I've done as much as I
                can working with the caretaker remotely and will need to
                attend myself with some test gear to fully
                diagnose. This site is remote (10h of driving then 1h
                boat ride). I generally make a point of avoiding Outback
                product so feel much better informed to diagnose when
                onsite - later in the week. Thanks. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:blue;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">Curious what is
                going on with Outback's tech support. I waited on hold
                for a bit on Wednesday, then left a message for callback
                and am still waiting for that callback 3 business days
                later. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:blue;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">My client is
                most upset that Outback can't even bother to return a
                tech call. His instructions to me are if we find
                multiple failed components in the system and not simple
                fixes to remove the gear and replace with "anything as
                long as it's not Outback". </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:blue;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">Will advise the
                list what was discovered once onsite. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:blue;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">Kevin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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          <blockquote style="MARGIN-TOP:5pt;MARGIN-BOTTOM:5pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in">
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">-----Original Message-----<br>
                <b>From:</b> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>frenergy<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> March 16, 2015 6:38 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback quad stack
                X240 breaker tripping</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Kevin,<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">        Not to add any confusion but
                I recently had to re-program the slave in a 2 VFX with
                Xfrmr system as it was doing the same thing...the 2 pole
                xfrmr breaker was tripping when a moderate load was on. 
                Granted this was not happening during charging though. 
                I think I changed the slave from OB slave L1 to OB slave
                L2 and all was good.  It doesn't seem likely the
                programming in your case would have been messed with
                having been working well for years prior.  Curious to
                hear though of a solution eventually.<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Bill<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Feather River Solar Electric<br>
                4291 Nelson St.<br>
                Taylorsville, CA  95983<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">----- Original
                    Message ----- <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'"> <a title="tump@swnl.net" href="mailto:tump@swnl.net" target="_blank">Tump</a>
                    <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">To:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'"> <a title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches</a>
                    <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'"> Monday, March 16, 2015 5:39
                    AM<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback
                    quad stack X240 breaker tripping<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Have you turned the breaker on the
                t240 to the off position? One does NOT have to have that
                operational for the system to operate correctly.The old
                t240 has about the same parasitic draw as an inverter.
                Isolate, Isolate, Isolate. If the system functions
                correctly w/ the t240 off and the stacking is correct on
                this q stack disconnect it(the t240). Otherwise I would
                remove the inverter com cables and only connect 1 pair
                of inverters at a time, reset the mate with the correct
                com cables connected to P1& P2. Sometimes something
                so simple as disconnecting & reconnection the mate
                can have quite a benefit. Again I would, if you are
                really stuck on having the t240 operational, then try it
                with each inverter as a single unit then try the second
                set of inverters. Disconnect the #s1&2 inverters and
                do the same; connect #s 3&4 P1 & P2, to see
                exactly which component may be your problem. <u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">You are more then happy to contact
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 15, 2015, at 5:04 PM,
                        Jerry Shafer wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> Wrenches<br>
                          OK if the X240 blows the fuse which is on the
                          output of the inverter while the inverter is
                          charging, excessive current must be passing
                          through from one inverter and back to the
                          output of another inverter ( a form of AC
                          coupling gone bad). The time delay fits as the
                          inverter ramps up, I would look at the
                          contactors in each slave as one may be hanging
                          or ther may be a bad board, easy way to test
                          is to isolate each inverter and with a amp
                          meter connected at the X240 see if current
                          goes away in the X240 as it should not be
                          doing much with light loads on the "House"
                          side of the inverters. The X240 is 25 amps
                          while the inverters are 50 amps. Sounds like a
                          interesting one to diagnose.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Jerry<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at
                          11:59 AM, Chris Worcester <<a href="mailto:chris@solarwindworks.com" target="_blank">chris@solarwindworks.com</a>>
                          wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kevin, <u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">I have seen the  X240's
                               trip off like this when theyare over
                              loaded. When this was happening to us the
                              slave inverters had blown AC  boards and
                              some times Control and FET boards too. We
                              had a hard time diagnosing this as their
                               green lights were on.  Using a clamp on
                               amp meter on each inverter's AC IN
                              conductor while charging with the gen set
                              allowed us to compare their charging
                              currents to each other. Typically the ones
                              with blown  AC boards output would be
                              close to zero amps. So the X240's were
                              doing double duty and they will smoke too
                              if the inverters aren't delta with. <u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely, <span><span style="COLOR:#888888"> </span></span><span><span style="COLOR:#888888"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:#888888">Chris Worcester</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:#888888"><a href="tel:530-448-9692" target="_blank">530-448-9692</a>  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:#888888"> Sent from my Galaxy S®III<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">-------- Original
                              message --------<u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">From: Kevin Pegg <u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Date:03/11/2015 1:19 PM
                              (GMT-08:00) <u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">To: RE-wrenches <u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Subject: [RE-wrenches]
                              Outback quad stack X240 breaker tripping <u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt">Hello Wrenches, <br>
                            <br>
                            Customer in remote location has a strange
                            situation come up on an existing system
                            installed (by others) 6 or so years go. Quad
                            stack VFX3648. <br>
                            <br>
                            Last night gen start was triggered by low
                            voltage - a normal system operation. <br>
                            <br>
                            Approx 1h into charge, they lost 1/2 the
                            circuits in house - L2 de-energized.
                            Caretaker went to check power system and
                            noticed the X240 breakers tripped. Tried to
                            reset but it tripped out right away. So he
                            left it as is and called me in the morning.
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            Here's what I've been able to determine
                            today: <br>
                            <br>
                            - The x240 is installed to bridge L1 &
                            L2 on the load side. <br>
                            - with master inverter on, 3 slaves off,
                            both L1 and L2 energized so suggests x240 is
                            working. <br>
                            - within 10 seconds of generator on and
                            charging, x240 breaker trips (and makes L2
                            go dark). <br>
                            - loads are minor, ~1,000 w of misc lights
                            and such, isn't all loaded up on one leg. <br>
                            <br>
                            Appreciate any thoughts to remedy. I'm not
                            as familiar with this config as others. <br>
                            <br>
                            Kevin Pegg<br>
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