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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>We had an off grid client who did not want a wood fired heater or wood tub & did a battery based circ pump (Dankoff) @ 24 vdc for the spa and propane heaters about 30 ft away out of sight & it worked really well. Bought a hot tub shell at a wholesaler in Denver, super insulated the 2” supply & return lines, & created the controls at 24 VDC. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>No blower or bubbles!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Dana Orzel</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>Great Solar Works, Inc - <b>NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></b></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>E</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> - dana@solarwork.com - <b>Web</b> - solarwork.com <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>O</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'> - 970.626.5253 <b>C </b>- 208.721.7003 - No FAX Line<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Fink<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 02, 2015 9:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Chofu Hot Tub Heater<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Snorkel or their Scuba. The Scuba is made for shallow 2 ft stock tanks.My 2 installations have been fine for a couple decades. No plumbing required. The Chofu had a thermosiphon thing going on. For the Snorkels.I do use a circulation pump a few minutes at a time-- just a submerisble bilge pump at the bottom, otherwise you'll be out there with a canoe paddle eliminating stratification, which (ahem) tends to make some body parts uncomfortably toasty for a short period of time as one eases into the tub.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>At some point I wish to put my Scuba in a small greenhouse to make it work year-round, and pre-heat with a simple solar DHW system.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dan Fink<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Buckville Energy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>IREC Certified Instructor™ for: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>~ PV Installation Professional<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>~ Small Wind Installer<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>NABCEP / IREC / ISPQ Accredited Continuing Education Providers™<br>970.672.4342<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Allan Sindelar <<a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Wrenches,<br>I have an off grid client who wants a hot tub, and would prefer a propane heater rather than wood. The Chofu appears to be the only unit that doesn't require a circulation pump. He had located this on his own, but told me that "The propane fired, self igniting, hydrosiphoning Chofu is no longer available domestically. Seems the Japanese do not wish to export these to the USA anymore. I will keep looking as this was the most sane idea for the project and of course cheapest. Chofu listed on Island Hot Tub is currently unavailable. I talked to him a week ago and it sounded like there was no availability for the foreseeable future."<br><br>Does anyone have a line on where one can be located before they're all gone? Or a good alternative?<br><br>Thanks, Allan</span><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:#888888'>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><b><span style='color:#888888'>Allan Sindelar</span></b><span style='color:#888888'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888'><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a></span><span style='color:#888888'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.<br><b><a href="tel:505%20780-2738" target="_blank">505 780-2738</a> cell</b></span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>