<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><base href="x-msg://3081/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">HI Dana, and others.<div><br></div><div>I talked to Magnum yesterday and they said there have been no upgrades really since new. ( my clients has serial # 136)</div><div>Except better control of the search mode, around serial number 350.</div><div><br></div><div>This doesn't seem to jive with what a few others have said or my experience, but I guess that leaves no where to go with it.</div><div><br></div><div>I also asked about upgrading it, and yes cheaper to buy a new one.</div><div><br></div><div>If anyone else has any info I"m still interested,</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div>peltz power</div><div><br></div><div>PS if I get really motivated I"ll borrow an oscilloscope and test the old one vs a new one.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On Feb 12, 2015, at 5:04 PM, "Dana" <<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; ">The old Trace SW series had a similar issue with Rogers-White(?) boiler controls. It had to do with how the sine (pseudo) wave crossed the X axis. It was too long a space and the controllers just sat there definitely on but doing nothing. I was shown this on an oscilloscope and it was very obvious.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; "> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96); ">----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; ">Dana Orzel</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><u><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; ">Great Solar Works, Inc - <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>NABCEP # 051112-136<o:p></o:p></b></span></u></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; ">E</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" style="color: blue; ">dana@solarwork.com</a> -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Web</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://solarwork.com" style="color: blue; ">solarwork.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; ">O</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- 970.626.5253 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>C<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>- 208.721.7003 - No FAX Line<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><u><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; ">"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white; "><b><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: Webdings; color: green; ">P</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: navy; "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: green; ">Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Century Gothic', sans-serif; "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches [mailto:re-<a href="mailto:wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:58 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] older magnum MS<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Jay,<br>I can't answer your question, but only relate that I had a similar experience.<br><br>An early Magnum MS4448AE would not reliably start and run a modern hydronic boiler in an off grid home. I had opened a case with Magnum tech support, but the frustrated HVAC contractor pulled the unit and installed a different brand of boiler and the problem disappeared.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>In my own home my MS4024AE has nothing it won't run, and it's a newer unit. But whether that's coincidental or the result of an inverter firmware or hardware upgrade, I can't say. Maybe Gary Baxter can?<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com" style="color: blue; ">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a></span><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.<br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On 2/12/2015 2:13 PM, jay peltz wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">HI All,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">I"ve had someone ask me about the following magnum and I know there are many more experienced folks that maybe can chime in.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">MS4448<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">V1-00138<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">2007<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">The problem is that for the life of the inverter it hasn't worked well for things like digital/electronic washer/dryers, even glow bar ovens etc.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">I don't have all the specifics yet and haven't visited the site.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">With new units I've not seen this. Are there some issues with these older units?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">And if so, any fixes?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">thanks<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">jay<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">peltz power<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; ">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" style="color: blue; ">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" style="color: blue; ">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; ">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html<br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm<br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br>www.members.re-wrenches.org</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>