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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dan and Allan,<br>
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      I was not going to comment on this thread since my info is a few
      years old. But since you brought up recent failures I will tell my
      experience. A few year ago we were having failures with new FM60
      and FM80 controllers. Brand new DOA controllers were replaced with
      used, warranty repaired controllers. One customer had 3
      controllers replaced in 30 days. After too many calls to Outback
      and not one penny in compensation, we totally quit selling all
      Outback products. <br>
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      Since then we have sold hundreds of Magnum Energy inverters. The
      only failure we have had was very recently with their new MSH
      series. For charge controllers we switched to Midnight Classic. We
      install 10-15 Classic 150's per month. We have had 1 DOA but
      Midnite responded well and sent a new replacement.<br>
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      Attention manufacturers...Customer service is everything to me.<br>
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Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
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      On 2/9/15 12:14 PM, Dan Tittmann wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">AS someone who works almost exclusively with off
        grid battery based inverters for years.  I would recommend
        staying away from the outback line of inverters.  We are seeing
        outback failures in units that are only 2 to 3 years old, once
        you get through to the Tech Support generally a 30 to 40 min
        hold time and forget about the "call you back feature" unless
        you want a call back in three days.  The board replacements that
        we get are a total crap shoot.  I have had replacement boards
        fail within minutes and many of them within in months and there
        is no warranty on the boards.  
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        <div>I would go with Magun Hybrid as it is a 120 V AC unit and
          has load assist like the old SW's.  We are always sorry to
          replace the old SW units but after 20+ years of service I
          guess they have put in their work.  Magnum has provided us
          with reliable service since we started installing them 6 Years
          ago.  I hope they keep their product as reliable with the new
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        <div>Daniel</div>
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              <div dir="ltr">Daniel Tittmann 
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                <div>Greenwired</div>
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                <div>707-923-2001 (office)</div>
                <div>707-206-5088 (Cell)</div>
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                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">....What I
                          want to know, please, are answers to two+
                          questions: 1) what's the real scoop? what is
                          now made where? and 2) what actual
                          experiences, specifically product failures,
                          have any of you had that directly relate to
                          changes directly attributable to overseas
                          production? In other words, how much of this
                          is real and how much is rumor?....<br>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
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                                      Founder (Retired), <span>Positive
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