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    I see. So they have another box on the ground floor with the "kill"
    switch and that box includes a 120/240 vac to 24vdc xfrm to drive
    the contactor coil  on the roof? So you run 120/240 vac to the box
    with the "kill" switch?<br>
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    Mark Frye<br>
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            like they use 24VDC for contactor activation, not 120VAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                RE-wrenches
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Mark Frye<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 02, 2015 1:29 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shut Down and
                the 10 Second Rule Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">OK. So did you
          run a line 120V up to the box on the roof to energize the coil
          of the relay up there?<br>
          <br>
          Mark Frye<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 2/2/2015 9:13 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">The units we have used have a large
                contactor inside the combiner box made by AMtec Solar.
                this was required to control the shut down includes a
                fire button done on the ground floor<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Jerry<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Mark
                Frye <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:markf@berkeleysolar.com" target="_blank">markf@berkeleysolar.com</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Jerry,<br>
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                  What unit did you use?<span style="color:#888888"><br>
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                    <span class="hoenzb">Mark Frye</span></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 2/2/2015 7:43 AM, Jerry
                        Shafer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p>Wrenches<br>
                        We have installed some of these rapid shut down
                        units and they are always located close to the
                        array and ours kill the DC instantly as long as
                        the inverter was running when this accures did
                        not test it with inverters already off.<br>
                        Jerry<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 2, 2015 5:34 AM,
                          "Christopher Warfel" <<a
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                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">We have a
                          interpretation problem among some people I
                          work with with, and  690.12 Rapid Shut Down
                          and the the 10 second time for reducing ac and
                          dc conductors to 240ma, and 30V.  The word
                          "initiation" seems to indicate that all
                          affected conductors need to be at these levels
                          within 10 seconds of de-energizing either the
                          ac or dc conductors. If so, then the
                          disconnects need to be co-located to meet this
                          requirement if this interpretation is correct.<br>
                          <br>
                          I have read Mr. Brook's article in Solar Pro,
                          but AHJs may feel differently.<br>
                          <br>
                          Would anyone care to weigh in on their
                          interpretation?<br>
                          <br>
                          Thank you, Chris<br>
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                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          -- <br>
                          Christopher Warfel, President<br>
                          ENTECH Engineering, Inc.<br>
                          PO Box 871, Block Island, RI 02807<br>
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