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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>William,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>As Dan mentioned there are harnesses with both front and rear D-rings. For the application you describe I would recommend using a tower harness that includes a saddle with waist strap D-rings. I personally prefer the Guardian Tower Edge harness. It is perfectly acceptable to use the front D-ring only as long as you are using it in “restraint”, where your positioning device is located so there is not enough slack in the rope to let you fall over the edge. If there is a possibility you might actually fall off the roof then the rear ring must be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Garrison<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>Garrison Riegel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>PV Operations Manager | </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.solarserviceinc.com/"><i><span style='color:#222A35'>Solar Service Inc</span></i></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>[p] 847-677-0950 | </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:garrison@solarserviceinc.com"><span style='color:#44546A;text-decoration:none'>garrison@solarserviceinc.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional™<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 17, 2015 1:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Fall Protection Equipment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Friends:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Industrial fall protection with rear attachment offers no functionality in keeping a worker in place on a steep steel roof. We install planks in these situations but would also like to be able to cinch up a line connected to the workers waist or chest in the front to provide extra stability. Rear attached harnesses do not provide that. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>William <br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 17, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I prefer climbing gear as its much lighter weight and doesn't drag you around. I actually think in some cases that traditional fall protection gear can be more of a tripping hazard than the safety it provides. However, I was previously under the impression that if OSHA (or in the islands: HIOSH) came around, we had to ditch the climbing gear and get into the 3 times as heavy regular harnesses.<br>I just looked at the OSHA website though, and it doesn't seem to specify certification, just that the equipment meet the fall criteria as Dan mentioned.<br><a href="https://www.osha.gov/Region7/fallprotection/fall_protection_info.html">https://www.osha.gov/Region7/fallprotection/fall_protection_info.html</a><br>This doesn't mention test procedures or certification of equipment. Here's more from the actual OSHA 1926 book:<br><br><strong>1926.502(e)(3)</strong><span class=blackten> </span><span class=blackten><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Connectors shall be drop forged, pressed or formed steel, or made of equivalent materials.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><a name="1926.502(e)(4)"></a><strong>1926.502(e)(4)</strong><span class=blackten> <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Connectors shall have a corrosion-resistant finish, and all surfaces and edges shall be smooth to prevent damage to interfacing parts of this system.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><a name="1926.502(e)(5)"></a><strong>1926.502(e)(5)</strong><span class=blackten> <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Connecting assemblies shall have a minimum tensile strength of 5,000 pounds (22.2 kN)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><a name="1926.502(e)(6)"></a><strong>1926.502(e)(6)</strong><span class=blackten> <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dee-rings and snaphooks shall be proof-tested to a minimum tensile load of 3,600 pounds (16 kN) without cracking, breaking, or taking permanent deformation.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>"Equivalent materials" ? Seems that an aluminum caribiner that meets the other criteria would be equivalent.<br><br>Here, Petzl also makes a full line of worker safety equipment: <a href="http://www.petzl.com/en/Professional/Verticality?l=US#.VLqw4nuLXfc">http://www.petzl.com/en/Professional/Verticality?l=US#.VLqw4nuLXfc</a><br><br>This is really interesting, and I would like to have a more definitive answer from OSHA. It would be great if we could use lighter weight climbing gear; just compare a caribiner to the heavy steel monsters you get at Grainger's. As long as it is strong enough:<br>Lighter weight = less fatigue= safer, IMHO. <br>As with so many discussions on this list, it will ultimately depend on your local authorities.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>R.Ray Walters<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>CTO, Solarray, Inc<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Nabcep Certified PV Installer, <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Licensed Master Electrician<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Solar Design Engineer<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>303 505-8760<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>On 1/16/2015 11:20 PM, Benn Kilburn wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>James,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>This looks like a pretty nice lanyard w/ shock-absorber, rope-grab and rope. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>What type/style harness did he bring along?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Re: OSHA approved...great question. Prior to looking into it further I'd suspect it falls in a "grey area". <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Benn Kilburn<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>SkyFire Energy Inc. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>780-906-7807<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>On Jan 16, 2015, at 9:29 AM, James Rudolph <a href="mailto:jamesrudolph99@gmail.com"><jamesrudolph99@gmail.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Aloha my Wrench Brothers!<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>We have a recent defector from a very large National Solar company here that brought in this great Fall gear (see attachment). To be honest it blew my mind how simple and light it was....Is anybody else using this rock climbing equipment as fall protection gear? Is this approved by OSHA.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>You would figure if humans just free climbed El Capitain with gear like this it would do just fine keeping me safe and compliant at 6 feet and above.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The rope grab is made by KONG. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Mahalo in advance!<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>James Rudolph<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Haleakala Solar <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><20150114_074111.jpeg><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>